Angel Tarragon
Dawn Dragon
It is my favorite piece of art from all three core rulebooks. The female were wolf comes in second and in third is the Dire Bear.
Elvish chain is beautiful.
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The Amazing Dingo
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I just wanted to agree with well...yeah, everyone else here in saying that I love the picture also. As soon as I saw it my mouth dropped and I was like..."Wow". Unfortunately, there isn't too much artwork nowadays that gets that type of attention, but that was certainly one piece of artwork.
Yes, but how do the elves make it? Do the hammer and smelt the steel like a bunch of sweaty dwarfs in a stuffy forge (doesn't seem very "elf-like")? Or, do they fashion it in some "magical" way?
Is there an official answer on this?
What's more, do the elves mine the steel (or is it mithral?)? Laboring away in the cramped confines of some claustrophobic tunnel like a bunch of . . . well, dwarves? Or, do they get the raw materials delivered by dwarven merchants into their forest homes?
Is there an official answer on this?
What's more, do the elves mine the steel (or is it mithral?)? Laboring away in the cramped confines of some claustrophobic tunnel like a bunch of . . . well, dwarves? Or, do they get the raw materials delivered by dwarven merchants into their forest homes?
Gez
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Spoiler for my next homebrew:
Elves and dwarves are in fact a single race. All elves are female, for a male elf is a dwarf. And all dwarves are male, for a female dwarf is an elf. Given the extreme sexual dismorphism in the species, in body as well as in attitude, both genders have trouble living together, and prefer to build segregated settlements, usually within one or two days of travel of a settlement of the other gender.
Dwarves work all days, mining and smithing and cutting and making all sorts of pretty, shiny things -- including pretty, shiny warhammers and pretty, shiny waraxes with which to slaughter those pesky goblins.
Meanwhile, the elves prance all days, getting serious only when they study magic. Oh, they work, from time to time, but not a lot. They harvest fruits and roots, they hunt a few animals, they weave baskets or do other woodworks. They also trade with humans the work of their dwarven husbands in exchange for food. Then, they exchange with the dwarves that food for more dwarven craftmanship, in monthly tradefest during which the dwarves come to the elven settlement and bring their goods. It's also during this busy tradefest that they bring back with them dwarfboys in age of learning to work, and hopefully make a few more children.
But regardless of that, yep, them elves rely on the dwarves (or humans, or gnomes, or other races interested in mining, but relationships with kobolds are usually tense) for their precious mithral. As for how it is made -- I suppose they buy mithral wire, like there are copper wire, and weave the mail.
Elves and dwarves are in fact a single race. All elves are female, for a male elf is a dwarf. And all dwarves are male, for a female dwarf is an elf. Given the extreme sexual dismorphism in the species, in body as well as in attitude, both genders have trouble living together, and prefer to build segregated settlements, usually within one or two days of travel of a settlement of the other gender.
Dwarves work all days, mining and smithing and cutting and making all sorts of pretty, shiny things -- including pretty, shiny warhammers and pretty, shiny waraxes with which to slaughter those pesky goblins.
Meanwhile, the elves prance all days, getting serious only when they study magic. Oh, they work, from time to time, but not a lot. They harvest fruits and roots, they hunt a few animals, they weave baskets or do other woodworks. They also trade with humans the work of their dwarven husbands in exchange for food. Then, they exchange with the dwarves that food for more dwarven craftmanship, in monthly tradefest during which the dwarves come to the elven settlement and bring their goods. It's also during this busy tradefest that they bring back with them dwarfboys in age of learning to work, and hopefully make a few more children.
But regardless of that, yep, them elves rely on the dwarves (or humans, or gnomes, or other races interested in mining, but relationships with kobolds are usually tense) for their precious mithral. As for how it is made -- I suppose they buy mithral wire, like there are copper wire, and weave the mail.
Bran Blackbyrd
Explorer
Yes, it's an excellent illustration. I've always liked it.
EDIT: Interesting Gez, very interesting.
Use your imagination, maybe there are buckles in the back. After all, that's why you need help donning armor.yoippari said:
Well, it doesn't take any imagination to know you're right about that.And a woman not being able to take off her shirt is just wrong.
EDIT: Interesting Gez, very interesting.
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I look at the picture (thanks Gez) and I see that it hangs like cloth. Fine cloth tailored to be form fitting. You're not going to get that with metal rings. Unless they're real small. So I'm thinking...
It's composed of real small wires somehow given the qualities of silk, then made into thread and the thread woven into metallic cloth. The rest is tailoring. It could even be silk with tiny wires magically incorporated. A magical species of silkworm that can incorporate metal into its thread might work.
Hope this gives people ideas.
It's composed of real small wires somehow given the qualities of silk, then made into thread and the thread woven into metallic cloth. The rest is tailoring. It could even be silk with tiny wires magically incorporated. A magical species of silkworm that can incorporate metal into its thread might work.
Hope this gives people ideas.
Klaus
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I liked this picture so much that I adapted the design of the Elven Chain for a Mithral Shirt one of my players (re: my wife) used in our home game:
http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/hosted/Pozas/Pictures/Illustration/heirs_to_the_adventure.jpg
http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/hosted/Pozas/Pictures/Illustration/heirs_to_the_adventure.jpg
The Amazing Dingo
First Post
My normal answers concerning mithral for the elves are usually follow partially along the lines of mythusmage by being natural. In my upcoming game, I'm debating about whether to have them made some creatures (whether silkworms or some other creature) or from a plant along the lines of the elven bows and metal in R.A. Salvatore's Demonwars Saga.
Something else that just struck me was only allowing dark elves to have mithral, whether it be from special spiders gifted from Lolth or if they force the dwarves/gnomes they conquer to mine it for them. It would make the dark elves that much fierce and special with it and perhaps give them something of their 'edge' back (something I think has been lost over the years of their constant use).
And, oh yeah, that picture still rocks, even after looking at it for the past hour...Ooooo...it just gives me shivers.
Something else that just struck me was only allowing dark elves to have mithral, whether it be from special spiders gifted from Lolth or if they force the dwarves/gnomes they conquer to mine it for them. It would make the dark elves that much fierce and special with it and perhaps give them something of their 'edge' back (something I think has been lost over the years of their constant use).
And, oh yeah, that picture still rocks, even after looking at it for the past hour...Ooooo...it just gives me shivers.
rangerjohn
Explorer
Klaus said:
Who are her companions? Including the animals. Somehow they don't look like pets.
