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<blockquote data-quote="Squared" data-source="post: 9463217" data-attributes="member: 7042756"><p>I have attempted to use image generation on three occasions. I am not a fan of the use of the term "AI" as it could mean anything and is largely used as a hype word in sales pitches.</p><p></p><p>The first time was just as a test to see what all the hype was about I tried to get it to make a character portrait but I quickly realized that the model had been trained on an awful lot of bad cheese cake art. It generated models that made characters look like they were from one of the bad Skyrim porno mods. After several attempts I gave up.</p><p></p><p>The next time I tried something significantly easier, I tried to generate a handout picture of a ring, a symbol of a secret organization. Generating this image took over 20 attempts and nearly an hour, though I was not counting. I was pretty frustrated with the whole process by the end. Constantly having to revise my prompts until I had a rather long paragraph of text. I could have drawn what I wanted in about the same time, though with less fidelity.</p><p></p><p>Just recently I decided to try again, mostly because I was not able to find a creepy picture of a bunch of manakins sitting in a theater on the internet. So I asked the image generator to create a picture, after only 8 or 9 attempts (4 images each time) it spat out something that I decided was good enough, if only because it is supposed to look creepy.</p><p></p><p>We have had other people in our group use image generators to create images because we have a game table with a TV inset into it. Each time this happens the game stops while everyone stops to gawk at the squiggly fingers or other obvious errors or we play a little game of find the image errors.</p><p></p><p>At the same time I cannot think of any reason to ever use a LLM in a TTRPG for anything that could not be better served by a random table.</p><p></p><p>Machine learning and related technologies offer a lot of promise to a variety of fields, I was just reading an article about using it for a significant improvement in plasma control in a fusion reactor. I don't think image and text generation software really has much to offer, in most cases it is actually cheaper to just pay someone to do that work rather than have the software do it. The software is just too inaccurate and nobody has managed to get past 80% accuracy with any one model. This is all before getting into ethical and legal questions.</p><p></p><p>The fact that WotC is jumping into this after the hype train has already left the station I think is just laughable. They are spending an awful lot of somebodies money, $1 billion with a B, and I suspect that it will crash and burn leaving behind a lot of debt.</p><p></p><p>^2</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Squared, post: 9463217, member: 7042756"] I have attempted to use image generation on three occasions. I am not a fan of the use of the term "AI" as it could mean anything and is largely used as a hype word in sales pitches. The first time was just as a test to see what all the hype was about I tried to get it to make a character portrait but I quickly realized that the model had been trained on an awful lot of bad cheese cake art. It generated models that made characters look like they were from one of the bad Skyrim porno mods. After several attempts I gave up. The next time I tried something significantly easier, I tried to generate a handout picture of a ring, a symbol of a secret organization. Generating this image took over 20 attempts and nearly an hour, though I was not counting. I was pretty frustrated with the whole process by the end. Constantly having to revise my prompts until I had a rather long paragraph of text. I could have drawn what I wanted in about the same time, though with less fidelity. Just recently I decided to try again, mostly because I was not able to find a creepy picture of a bunch of manakins sitting in a theater on the internet. So I asked the image generator to create a picture, after only 8 or 9 attempts (4 images each time) it spat out something that I decided was good enough, if only because it is supposed to look creepy. We have had other people in our group use image generators to create images because we have a game table with a TV inset into it. Each time this happens the game stops while everyone stops to gawk at the squiggly fingers or other obvious errors or we play a little game of find the image errors. At the same time I cannot think of any reason to ever use a LLM in a TTRPG for anything that could not be better served by a random table. Machine learning and related technologies offer a lot of promise to a variety of fields, I was just reading an article about using it for a significant improvement in plasma control in a fusion reactor. I don't think image and text generation software really has much to offer, in most cases it is actually cheaper to just pay someone to do that work rather than have the software do it. The software is just too inaccurate and nobody has managed to get past 80% accuracy with any one model. This is all before getting into ethical and legal questions. The fact that WotC is jumping into this after the hype train has already left the station I think is just laughable. They are spending an awful lot of somebodies money, $1 billion with a B, and I suspect that it will crash and burn leaving behind a lot of debt. ^2 [/QUOTE]
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