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<blockquote data-quote="Orcus" data-source="post: 3149675" data-attributes="member: 1254"><p>Hi everyone. </p><p></p><p>Just thought I would chuck in my two cents. I maybe have a slightly different approach to viewing this issue.</p><p></p><p>First off, I am right there with Monte on this. I see this as amazing.</p><p></p><p>I aslo want to say that Necro has no intention of raising any prices on PDFs. Our price decisions are our price decisions. We try to decide what is fair and that is that. </p><p></p><p>But back to my main point <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>As you may remember, Necro has the fine distinction of releasing the very first OGL/d20 product of all time--the Wizard's Amulet. That product was a PDF. That's right, the very first product in all of d20 history was a PDF. As a result, I have a fond spot in my heart for PDFs. We have always had great PDF support for our products. But, until recently, because Bill and I do not run Necro full time, we have not really viewed pdf distribution as a good primary distribution method for us. I always wanted to do more in the way of primary PDFs, but it just wasnt something that worked for us. I know that Necro is differnt from a lot of publishers for that reason. So my concerns and issues are different from a company that is part of the merge that has for some time relied on PDFs as a primary means of distribution. I understand and acknowledge that. I know that there are lots of different publishers with lots of different takes here. Heck, you can see it just by reading the threads. So I am not presuming to speak for anyone but me.</p><p></p><p>However, I see the creation of OBS as the beginning of the true growth of PDFs as a more viable distribution method. Sure, you could say "hey Clark it has been here all along". I know it has. And I have watched. But I think, from my standpoint, OBS has made a significant change. I truly see the merger as focusing on future growth. The type I hoped would one day happen for PDFs. Now you have one company with all the staff working on a common goal of site improvement, delivery improvement, etc. Previously I viewed PDF distribution as a way to reach some fans who couldnt get print product. Now I am excited to contemplate PDF as a means of primary delivery. I have to say that I didnt see that as a workable model for us before. So much so, that I actually have a massive product in the works that will be PDF released first and exclusively and will only be published in print on the very back end (after several installments of PDFs). I wouldnt have been comfortable with that prior to the merger. </p><p></p><p>So what does this do for current publishers? It grow the PDF market, which is a boon for all publishers. It brings PDF more into the main of commercial viability for primary delivery. Frankly, it has convinced publishers like me to dip deeper into PDFs as a delivery medium. That can only be a good thing, in my view. </p><p></p><p>Call me crazy, but I also see this merger as being one step closer to fulfilling the vision of open gaming. </p><p></p><p>What? What did I just say? Yeah, it might sound crazy but I mean in. Open Gaming is awesome because anyone who can make a pdf can get involved. It is the desk top revolution to gaming. I love it. (I know I am preaching to the choir here <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ). The prior problem with Open Gaming truly fulfilling its vision is that there has always been a split between pdf publishers to some degree and print publishers. In my view, the rise of the commercial viability of PDF delivery brings those publishers together. </p><p></p><p>For instance, I understand there will be bundling features. For isntance, lets say a pdf publisher made a product that used some open game content from our Tome of Horrors. You can advertise and bundle together your product to mine. Since Tome is one of the best selling d20 books of all time, I imagine other publishers can see the value of that. </p><p></p><p>Sorry if this has been a long post and maybe doesnt make a ton of sense. But it is late and I am really tired.</p><p></p><p>To sum up:</p><p></p><p>As a publisher, I love this merger. </p><p></p><p>As a fan of open gaming, I love the possibilities a stronger pdf delivery mechanism brings to my view of realizing the dream of people and companies of all types coming together to make game products.</p><p></p><p>As a fan of pdfs, I am thrilled to see OBS finally be FOR ME (and this is no disrespect to others who found other ways) what I wanted in a pdf delivery mechanism. </p><p></p><p>PDFs for me are not just an added convenience, they are now--with OBS--a viable primary delivery medium. And I am geeked about that. I think this does nothing but provide huge possibilities for pdf publishing which I strongly believe is the wave of the future for gaming.</p><p></p><p>As a side note, I happen to know the people involved and I know they are great guys and love gaming as much as I do. </p><p></p><p>Clark</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Orcus, post: 3149675, member: 1254"] Hi everyone. Just thought I would chuck in my two cents. I maybe have a slightly different approach to viewing this issue. First off, I am right there with Monte on this. I see this as amazing. I aslo want to say that Necro has no intention of raising any prices on PDFs. Our price decisions are our price decisions. We try to decide what is fair and that is that. But back to my main point :) As you may remember, Necro has the fine distinction of releasing the very first OGL/d20 product of all time--the Wizard's Amulet. That product was a PDF. That's right, the very first product in all of d20 history was a PDF. As a result, I have a fond spot in my heart for PDFs. We have always had great PDF support for our products. But, until recently, because Bill and I do not run Necro full time, we have not really viewed pdf distribution as a good primary distribution method for us. I always wanted to do more in the way of primary PDFs, but it just wasnt something that worked for us. I know that Necro is differnt from a lot of publishers for that reason. So my concerns and issues are different from a company that is part of the merge that has for some time relied on PDFs as a primary means of distribution. I understand and acknowledge that. I know that there are lots of different publishers with lots of different takes here. Heck, you can see it just by reading the threads. So I am not presuming to speak for anyone but me. However, I see the creation of OBS as the beginning of the true growth of PDFs as a more viable distribution method. Sure, you could say "hey Clark it has been here all along". I know it has. And I have watched. But I think, from my standpoint, OBS has made a significant change. I truly see the merger as focusing on future growth. The type I hoped would one day happen for PDFs. Now you have one company with all the staff working on a common goal of site improvement, delivery improvement, etc. Previously I viewed PDF distribution as a way to reach some fans who couldnt get print product. Now I am excited to contemplate PDF as a means of primary delivery. I have to say that I didnt see that as a workable model for us before. So much so, that I actually have a massive product in the works that will be PDF released first and exclusively and will only be published in print on the very back end (after several installments of PDFs). I wouldnt have been comfortable with that prior to the merger. So what does this do for current publishers? It grow the PDF market, which is a boon for all publishers. It brings PDF more into the main of commercial viability for primary delivery. Frankly, it has convinced publishers like me to dip deeper into PDFs as a delivery medium. That can only be a good thing, in my view. Call me crazy, but I also see this merger as being one step closer to fulfilling the vision of open gaming. What? What did I just say? Yeah, it might sound crazy but I mean in. Open Gaming is awesome because anyone who can make a pdf can get involved. It is the desk top revolution to gaming. I love it. (I know I am preaching to the choir here :) ). The prior problem with Open Gaming truly fulfilling its vision is that there has always been a split between pdf publishers to some degree and print publishers. In my view, the rise of the commercial viability of PDF delivery brings those publishers together. For instance, I understand there will be bundling features. For isntance, lets say a pdf publisher made a product that used some open game content from our Tome of Horrors. You can advertise and bundle together your product to mine. Since Tome is one of the best selling d20 books of all time, I imagine other publishers can see the value of that. Sorry if this has been a long post and maybe doesnt make a ton of sense. But it is late and I am really tired. To sum up: As a publisher, I love this merger. As a fan of open gaming, I love the possibilities a stronger pdf delivery mechanism brings to my view of realizing the dream of people and companies of all types coming together to make game products. As a fan of pdfs, I am thrilled to see OBS finally be FOR ME (and this is no disrespect to others who found other ways) what I wanted in a pdf delivery mechanism. PDFs for me are not just an added convenience, they are now--with OBS--a viable primary delivery medium. And I am geeked about that. I think this does nothing but provide huge possibilities for pdf publishing which I strongly believe is the wave of the future for gaming. As a side note, I happen to know the people involved and I know they are great guys and love gaming as much as I do. Clark [/QUOTE]
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