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<blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 3150987" data-attributes="member: 10177"><p>From the consumer standpoint PDF's still aren't as conveninet or easy to read as print. So until pdf's are as easy on my eyes, and as easy to carry around as a print book, don't expect them to compete with print.</p><p></p><p>The main reason I buy is to be able to print stuff. So map type products are my main reason to buy, so I can easily print them. Or in the case of Mother of All Treasure Tables, easier to print out the descriptions rather than hand copy or scan and then print.</p><p></p><p>So for me, if print publishers want to sell more pdf's to me, then you guys need to either give me a serious discount coupon on the pdf when I buy the print, or lower the pdf prices across the board.</p><p></p><p>The only way to expand the pdf market is to make it so cheap compared to print that computer owners have to try them out. Only a handful of print companies, at least in the RPG business, are doing that.</p><p></p><p>I've noticed that WOTC hasn't been happy with their sales for their full priced pdf versions of their books. I guess the consumer base isn't as stupid as they hoped, or that they aren't very interested in getting pdf sales to be successful.</p><p></p><p>If people really want pdf's to take off quit thinking they compete with print at the same, or even close, price points. Most of us are smart enough to know that pdf is way cheaper for you guys to make and sell than a print book. No printing costs, no physical storage issues. Way cheaper. So charge way less than print. </p><p></p><p>By keeping them so close in price you print guys are forcing the competition. So if you don't want to have them compete, stop it. If you don't want to have pdf's undercut your print, then offer a discount on the pdf price to those who bought the print. That way you get the print sale, plus a little more off of the pdf. Otherwise you are keeping your smarter consumers at the "either/or" level of buying. Its up to you print guys to change that dynamic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Treebore, post: 3150987, member: 10177"] From the consumer standpoint PDF's still aren't as conveninet or easy to read as print. So until pdf's are as easy on my eyes, and as easy to carry around as a print book, don't expect them to compete with print. The main reason I buy is to be able to print stuff. So map type products are my main reason to buy, so I can easily print them. Or in the case of Mother of All Treasure Tables, easier to print out the descriptions rather than hand copy or scan and then print. So for me, if print publishers want to sell more pdf's to me, then you guys need to either give me a serious discount coupon on the pdf when I buy the print, or lower the pdf prices across the board. The only way to expand the pdf market is to make it so cheap compared to print that computer owners have to try them out. Only a handful of print companies, at least in the RPG business, are doing that. I've noticed that WOTC hasn't been happy with their sales for their full priced pdf versions of their books. I guess the consumer base isn't as stupid as they hoped, or that they aren't very interested in getting pdf sales to be successful. If people really want pdf's to take off quit thinking they compete with print at the same, or even close, price points. Most of us are smart enough to know that pdf is way cheaper for you guys to make and sell than a print book. No printing costs, no physical storage issues. Way cheaper. So charge way less than print. By keeping them so close in price you print guys are forcing the competition. So if you don't want to have them compete, stop it. If you don't want to have pdf's undercut your print, then offer a discount on the pdf price to those who bought the print. That way you get the print sale, plus a little more off of the pdf. Otherwise you are keeping your smarter consumers at the "either/or" level of buying. Its up to you print guys to change that dynamic. [/QUOTE]
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