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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Goblyns Hoard" data-source="post: 4542352" data-attributes="member: 19970">Cheers for the input everyone.  TO be clear what I was talking about was nothing to do with DDI - never used it.  I'm just going out of the 'Spending you XP budget' section (page 57 of the DMG).  I realise it says monsters 7 levels or above are likely to be too hard but what I was looking for was some personal experience on how it had played out at the table, rather than just opinions about what people thought of how it would work.  So Iron Sky and Buzz thanks for those details.The problem with solos is the level I have and the encounter I'm looking for.  The only solos even close to the range I'm looking for are young dragons which are simply not an option given the encounter I'm looking for.  The closest elite that could work is the blackscale bruiser - which also isn't what I was looking for, and reskinning an ochre jelly to be a humanoid... possibly problematic.  I guess this is my problem, with the 4E style monsters - not enough variation in the single MM produced so far and more difficult for a starting DM to adapt the options to the encounter.  I'm sure with time I'll get used to it, but I know with 3E I had more transparent tools to accomplish my aim.  Don't want to devolve into an edition war so I'll just leave that there.Thanks again for the thoughts... I'll just have to fudge something together and hope I don't overpower anything.</blockquote>