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<blockquote data-quote="Belphanior" data-source="post: 4097660" data-attributes="member: 12401">That depends entirely on the trap in question.Pit trap in the hall? It's just the one who walks in front.Poisoned needle on the lock? It's the one who tried to pick it.Do note though that 4E seems to eschew this kind of trap. They are binary (detect or not, hit or not) one-time affairs that quickly get remedied with a single spell of the cleric. Instead it goes for more environmental hazard-like contraptions that have every bit as much personality and dynamic as a monster.It's more likely you'll have to brave the Hall of the Reaper, which is a corridor with terribe scythe-blades randomly slashing into places from the walls, floor, and ceiling, sometimes empty squares, but woe the one who gets eviscerated by them. And also in this hall are two pitch black Tombdust Wraiths that ignore the lacerating steel even as they silently float at you. Oooohh....So yeah in that case you're going to need the grid. You'll need to know which squares get randomly attacked , where the wraiths are, where the PCs are, and where the control mechanism is that the Rogue must somehow get to if he wants to shut the damn blades down.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Belphanior, post: 4097660, member: 12401"] That depends entirely on the trap in question. Pit trap in the hall? It's just the one who walks in front. Poisoned needle on the lock? It's the one who tried to pick it. Do note though that 4E seems to eschew this kind of trap. They are binary (detect or not, hit or not) one-time affairs that quickly get remedied with a single spell of the cleric. Instead it goes for more environmental hazard-like contraptions that have every bit as much personality and dynamic as a monster. It's more likely you'll have to brave the [COLOR=DarkRed][SIZE=5]Hall of the Reaper[/SIZE][/COLOR], which is a corridor with terribe scythe-blades randomly slashing into places from the walls, floor, and ceiling, sometimes empty squares, but woe the one who gets eviscerated by them. And also in this hall are two pitch black Tombdust Wraiths that ignore the lacerating steel even as they silently float at you. Oooohh.... So yeah in that case you're going to need the grid. You'll need to know which squares get randomly attacked , where the wraiths are, where the PCs are, and where the control mechanism is that the Rogue must [i]somehow[/i] get to if he wants to shut the damn blades down. [/QUOTE]

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