Enlarged Antimagic Field?

[Henry]

I disagree. A fighter or group of fighters of 15th level or lower would still be hard-pressed to defeat a dragon without magic. Imagine - their armor and weapons are no longer magical, and the dragon's armor class is not even touched. The fighter group has lost anywhere from 5 to 10 points from their attack bonus (belt of giant strength, +5 sword, spells of true strike, etc.) and the dragon can bat them around like a cat's play toy. A dragon with about a 33 AC or so, and a +30 to its attack bonus is going to dine on freshly-peeled fighter without magic to help.

 

[Sir Hawkeye]

I've been thinking this would only require Enlarge, but then after looking at it, I think it technically requires both. The reasoning being that with a spell like this, no portion of the Widened effect could leave the 10-ft range. This is what they get for putting in redundant specifications.

My meaning: choose one option and be consistent.

 

[Krystoff]

It seems to me that the dragon would be at a disadvantage in an Anti-Magic field. No Breath weapon, spell like abilities, or spells. The only thing the Dragon has left is it's AC (not too bad), and natural attacks.

A Fighter heavy party would make short work of a dragon in this situation.

Dwarmaj

Like Henry said, a dragon in an Antimagic field is a scary scary thing. For a lot of dragons, there is some sort of DR. DR 20/+3 and nothing can get through without 20+ points of damage.

The dragon however gets full STR + BAB. Add feats like Power attack and with no magical armor the group of fighters is really screwed. If he decides to, he can just grab one person on a flyby attack (Even giving everyone else AoO) and destroy them all at his leisure.

 

[Victim]

"Damage Reduction (Su):"

Supernatural abilities go away in antimagic. Therefore, the dragon loses his DR in the AMF.

However, it'd still be really tough to beat a dragon in an AMF.

 

[Rashak Mani]

So would enlarge do the trick or not ?

 

[Slander]

From the SRD:
"If the character casts antimagic field in an area occupied by a conjured creature who has spell resistance, the character must make a caster level check (1d20 + caster level) against the creature's SR to make it wink out. "

Now, am I wrong in thinking that were a dragon choose to fail her own caster level check, she would retain the use of her supernatural abilities (i.e. DR, BW)? Or would failing the caster level check result in Antimagic She ... er ... Field failing to materialize?

I know this is a dragon thread, but the answer to this may come into play with my monk in the near future.


Slander

 

[Number47]

A creature does not get a SR roll against anti-magic to retain any abilities. The only time a SR roll is allowed at all is only if the creature would be forced to "wink out" from the spell as it is cast. Once the spell is cast, a summoned creature gets no save or SR to avoid being "winked".

Edit: I'm pretty sure that an emanation such as this one only needs the Enlarge feat to increase its' effectiveness.

 

[Rashak Mani]

Enlarge 3 times Anti Magic field is

10x2 (20) x2 (40) x2 = 80 OR
10 x2 (20) x2 (30) x2 = 40 ?

Do you multiply the previous enlargments as well ?

 

[Saladrex]

Enlarge 3 times Anti Magic field is

10x2 (20) x2 (40) x2 = 80 OR
10 x2 (20) x2 (30) x2 = 40 ?

Do you multiply the previous enlargments as well ?

I have this doubt myself, But since the feat say "double the range with 1 spell slot above" I would tend to think:
- a lvl 6 AMF has 10' radius
- a lvl 7 AMF is the lvl 6 AMF enlarged, so 10'x2 = 20'
- a lvl 8 AMF is the lvl 7 AMF enlarged, so 20'x2 = 40'
- a lvl 9 AMF is the lvl 8 AMF enlarged, so 40'x2 = 80'

What about the others? What do you think?

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[Number47]

Metamagic feats never "see" other metamagic feats. They all work on the base spell only. So an Enlarged, Enlarged, Enlarged Anti-Magic Field is a radius of 40 feet. Pretty big (diameter 80 feet).