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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 7913616" data-attributes="member: 93670">Yea rituals are useful, but those are a half baked problem of their own.Filtering out the duplicates<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Alarm, Comprehend Languages, Detect Magic, Find Familiar, Floating Disk, Identify, Illusory Script, Unseen servant</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Gentle repose, Magic Mouth, Skywrite</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Feign Death, Tiny Hut, Water Breathing </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"> none</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Contact Other Plane*, Instant Summons, Telepathic Bond</li> </ol>A good number of those are also on other class lists (including divine casters like cleric  who can grab them at any long rest without the cost of scribing)... When was the last time you ever saw someone use contact other plane, skywrite, ritual feign death, magic mouth, Gentle repose, or illusory script so much that they could be considered a keystone component of their character?... With the loss of int mod bonus languages, a wizard is on the same footing of knowing stuff like languages as everyone else despite being the guy who should know them without needing a spell as a scholar.  Yes the wizard has more spells, but  with so much overlap in the "right" spells it doesn't much matter & the two feel very similar in play.  Comprehend languages might come up occasionally sure, but if it comes up often you probably need nonritual tongues so you can  speak rather than just understand & tongues is not unique to the wizard list.</blockquote>

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