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Enterprise to get a 2nd chance in Canada?
- Thread starter mojo1701
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Silver Moon
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I think that ship has sailed.
Darth K'Trava
First Post
The latest news from the "Save Enterprise" yahoo group:
Dear Group:
Here's the text of the message from Tim:
Tim can not get into the chat room. Seems someone has been up to
some dirty tricks there. So here is the announcement. Tim can also
not log onto the forum for some reason.
Paramount has agreed to do a release on our combined efforts proving
that we were involved with these talks, negotiations or whatever you
choose to call them. This is supposed to come from Mr. Wentworth's
office. We will see if they stay true to this. I have NO doubts that
many of you will contact him. Please feel free to do so.
First, let me start off by saying that the way that most fans have
united here is astounding. Most have all pulled together to try and
keep Enterprise and Star Trek alive. I would also like to add that I
am not sure why some on other forums were so mistrusting of what we
as fans we were trying to do. It really saddens me that we could not
all pull together in this to try and make a positive impact on the
future of Enterprise and Star Trek.
Although non of our members that have contributed to the campaign
have complained, most everyone else has. It boggles the mind that
people do not have at least some trust in the fellow fans. It does
not matter what series you are a fan of. They all push for unity as
well as peace and that is not what all of the fans here on the
internet have made this about. It has turned into a total concept of
who is going to win and who is going to loose.
That has been wrong from the start and should not have come down
that way by either side. If you were not happy with the way we were
doing things. OFFER suggestions not criticism. Not one of the people
putting down our efforts even tried to offer advice or contacted me
personally to say "try this" or you might want to run this by your
staff.
Here are the facts. We have been in talks with Paramount. We have
brought millions and millions to the table to keep the show going.
We have had two companies in Canada that were involved in trying to
move it to Canada. We also proposed another way of keeping it in the
U.S so that no one would have to move. This was all thought out very
well in advanced and pushed forward not by just the staff at Trek
United but by the other Canadian Companies as well.
We had many people involved in this outside of Trek United. We are
NOT producers, directors or know anything about the television
business. This is why we got in touch with people who were. We made
a proposal to these companies in Canada and they wanted to take it
to the next level which was Paramount.
The main problem here seems to be us accepting fan money. This will
no longer be an issue. Starting Monday or Tuesday. Andrew our
attorney and I will start the forms and refunding all money that our
members have contributed to this campaign as per the TOS.
With this being said. The money from the fans was meant to make a
point and that is what happened. People stood up and took notice.
The media ate it up. Paramount has noticed us to say the least. We
have taken this campaign to new heights beyond any other. We let
them know that we would not go quietly into the night without
speaking our mind.
A lot of our staff and members have taken a lot of abuse from others
on forums and various places for standing up for what they believe
in and something that they hold dear which is this wonderful world
of Star Trek. Most of our members stand for what Star Trek is all
about. Unity, peace and working together for a common cause and we
did this against incredible odds which to be honest I thought was
Paramount. I never dreamed that we would be fighting fans in this
battle as well. This is NOT what Star Trek is all about.
For the people that have supported us from the start and for the
ones that continue to do so. Please hang tight. You have done
everything that you could to try and make this happen. It is plain
to see that this is not about money, ratings and or anything else
other than politics with UPN and Paramount or somewhere else.
Our final proposal was knocked down by Paramount. We will not see a
season five for Star Trek Enterprise. All money as I stated earlier
will be refunded starting Monday or Tuesday of this week. We will
not allow people bashing our efforts on our own forums. Please keep
in mind that our members are fans just like you are. If you feel the
need to rejoice over this.. Please direct your email to me.
Tim@trekunited.com
For the members that have supported us Thank you. We are all
winners. We had the dream that we could make this happen. Trek
United will continue to be here and we will explore new ideas, but
the fan donation part if it has made the point we intended it to .
Tim
Dear Group:
Here's the text of the message from Tim:
Tim can not get into the chat room. Seems someone has been up to
some dirty tricks there. So here is the announcement. Tim can also
not log onto the forum for some reason.
Paramount has agreed to do a release on our combined efforts proving
that we were involved with these talks, negotiations or whatever you
choose to call them. This is supposed to come from Mr. Wentworth's
office. We will see if they stay true to this. I have NO doubts that
many of you will contact him. Please feel free to do so.
First, let me start off by saying that the way that most fans have
united here is astounding. Most have all pulled together to try and
keep Enterprise and Star Trek alive. I would also like to add that I
am not sure why some on other forums were so mistrusting of what we
as fans we were trying to do. It really saddens me that we could not
all pull together in this to try and make a positive impact on the
future of Enterprise and Star Trek.
Although non of our members that have contributed to the campaign
have complained, most everyone else has. It boggles the mind that
people do not have at least some trust in the fellow fans. It does
not matter what series you are a fan of. They all push for unity as
well as peace and that is not what all of the fans here on the
internet have made this about. It has turned into a total concept of
who is going to win and who is going to loose.
That has been wrong from the start and should not have come down
that way by either side. If you were not happy with the way we were
doing things. OFFER suggestions not criticism. Not one of the people
putting down our efforts even tried to offer advice or contacted me
personally to say "try this" or you might want to run this by your
staff.
Here are the facts. We have been in talks with Paramount. We have
brought millions and millions to the table to keep the show going.
We have had two companies in Canada that were involved in trying to
move it to Canada. We also proposed another way of keeping it in the
U.S so that no one would have to move. This was all thought out very
well in advanced and pushed forward not by just the staff at Trek
United but by the other Canadian Companies as well.
We had many people involved in this outside of Trek United. We are
NOT producers, directors or know anything about the television
business. This is why we got in touch with people who were. We made
a proposal to these companies in Canada and they wanted to take it
to the next level which was Paramount.
The main problem here seems to be us accepting fan money. This will
no longer be an issue. Starting Monday or Tuesday. Andrew our
attorney and I will start the forms and refunding all money that our
members have contributed to this campaign as per the TOS.
With this being said. The money from the fans was meant to make a
point and that is what happened. People stood up and took notice.
The media ate it up. Paramount has noticed us to say the least. We
have taken this campaign to new heights beyond any other. We let
them know that we would not go quietly into the night without
speaking our mind.
A lot of our staff and members have taken a lot of abuse from others
on forums and various places for standing up for what they believe
in and something that they hold dear which is this wonderful world
of Star Trek. Most of our members stand for what Star Trek is all
about. Unity, peace and working together for a common cause and we
did this against incredible odds which to be honest I thought was
Paramount. I never dreamed that we would be fighting fans in this
battle as well. This is NOT what Star Trek is all about.
For the people that have supported us from the start and for the
ones that continue to do so. Please hang tight. You have done
everything that you could to try and make this happen. It is plain
to see that this is not about money, ratings and or anything else
other than politics with UPN and Paramount or somewhere else.
Our final proposal was knocked down by Paramount. We will not see a
season five for Star Trek Enterprise. All money as I stated earlier
will be refunded starting Monday or Tuesday of this week. We will
not allow people bashing our efforts on our own forums. Please keep
in mind that our members are fans just like you are. If you feel the
need to rejoice over this.. Please direct your email to me.
Tim@trekunited.com
For the members that have supported us Thank you. We are all
winners. We had the dream that we could make this happen. Trek
United will continue to be here and we will explore new ideas, but
the fan donation part if it has made the point we intended it to .
Tim
Angel Tarragon
Dawn Dragon
I love Scott Bakula and I love Star Trek, but Enterpirse just doesn't cut the mustard (at least in this TV watchers opinion).
Angel Tarragon
Dawn Dragon
Secondly, the fact that Marina Sirtis and Jhnathan Frakes will be in the last episode is just wrong (again this is my opinion).
Unless and until they give names for those "people at Paramount" that they claim to have been in talks with, I'm not apt to believe them much.
And I suspect that announcement is simply wrong in saying that politics at Paramount are the reason. Sorry, but if the show were apt to make enough money, the politics would swing Enterprise's way. But since the show didn't find it's legs soon enough, viewership has slipped too low. Three and a fraction million dollars might fund a couple of episodes, but it doesn't do enough to change the overall profitability much.
Canada? Canada? Talking to Paramount about moving to Canada without talking to the actors first is just stupid. Actors are people too, and would likely resist moving away for a year for a failing TV show.
That being said, I think that fan-funded production isn't such a bad idea, in general. The only problem is getting enough of them on board at once to make it work.
And I suspect that announcement is simply wrong in saying that politics at Paramount are the reason. Sorry, but if the show were apt to make enough money, the politics would swing Enterprise's way. But since the show didn't find it's legs soon enough, viewership has slipped too low. Three and a fraction million dollars might fund a couple of episodes, but it doesn't do enough to change the overall profitability much.
Canada? Canada? Talking to Paramount about moving to Canada without talking to the actors first is just stupid. Actors are people too, and would likely resist moving away for a year for a failing TV show.
That being said, I think that fan-funded production isn't such a bad idea, in general. The only problem is getting enough of them on board at once to make it work.
Darth K'Trava
First Post
Frukathka said:
That's my opinion as well. And a very common one that I've seen.
Unless there's quiet, so far, plans to eventually do a "USS Titan" series.... why else would they go out and let fans try to design the ship?
Psychic Warrior
First Post
mojo1701 your thread title is very misleading. Nearly gave me heart failure to think this junk was going to linger on in th Great White North. How revolting.
