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<blockquote data-quote="sirwmholder" data-source="post: 2941282" data-attributes="member: 41558">Thanks so much... I'm still not sure how to read your tables though <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />.&nbsp; Given the above I need to add this... if a 5' cube of dirt deals 1d8 per 5' of drop... then a single 5' cube dropping 30' deals 6d8 damage... however this spell effects the eight squares surrounding the caster... going only 2.5' deep... so that would still be 24d8... unless I missed something... that's still too much damage for the 9 MP spent on the spell...&nbsp; I'm thinking of making a house rule... all spell damage is non-lethal damage unless it is the direct result of an Evoke Spell list... For this spell I rationalize it by you see it coming so you cover your vital spots... like a cave in... it may knock you out but it's not like dropping a lead weight on you.As for the Fling I was thinking of adding Evoke Air for the Knockback effect... I'm loving the difficult terrain idea... I was thinking of having it leave a cloud of dust behind but I'm not sure if it should impede visibility though... thoughts?Thanks again everyone for your help,Wm. Holder</blockquote>

[QUOTE="sirwmholder, post: 2941282, member: 41558"] Thanks so much... I'm still not sure how to read your tables though ;). Given the above I need to add this... if a 5' cube of dirt deals 1d8 per 5' of drop... then a single 5' cube dropping 30' deals 6d8 damage... however this spell effects the eight squares surrounding the caster... going only 2.5' deep... so that would still be 24d8... unless I missed something... that's still too much damage for the 9 MP spent on the spell... I'm thinking of making a house rule... all spell damage is non-lethal damage unless it is the direct result of an Evoke Spell list... For this spell I rationalize it by you see it coming so you cover your vital spots... like a cave in... it may knock you out but it's not like dropping a lead weight on you. As for the Fling I was thinking of adding Evoke Air for the Knockback effect... I'm loving the difficult terrain idea... I was thinking of having it leave a cloud of dust behind but I'm not sure if it should impede visibility though... thoughts? Thanks again everyone for your help, Wm. Holder [/QUOTE]

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