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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ryfte" data-source="post: 3917319" data-attributes="member: 24385">Those certainly are... famous... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Okay... here goes... (using my 20th level swordsage as an example...)6 + Int modifier skill points per level (and x4 at 1st level) = 184ptsNew Skill System estimations...Swordsage (as ranger/rogue base) 14pts. + Int modifier + 1/2 levels + 1/4 swordsage levels + Intelligence modifier = 29pts.Swordsage Skills: Agility, Athletics, Awareness, Common Knowledge, Diplomacy, Disable Device, Ride, Search, Sense Motive, Sneak, WarcraftTake Agility and Sneak as an example as well...Agility (S) [Cost3 + 1classSkill(free)]• +40 Balance +15dex+2synergy• +40 Escape Artist +15dex+2synergy• +40 Tumble +15dex+2synergy• +38 Perform (dance) +15dex• +40 Use Rope +15dex+2synergySummary:In this system three skill points in class to Agility is worth 5 (number of skills) x 23 (ranks granted at 20th level) = 115 skill ranks!!!Recommendation...Make skill tricks swappable at a 1 feat = 4 skill tricks ratio. Since skill tricks are extremely situational and limited in uses as well they're far less powerful. In addition to this just adjudicate them as a good GM would. *shrug*</blockquote>