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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scurvy_Platypus" data-source="post: 4396969" data-attributes="member: 43283">Here's a link to the E6 idea:<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?t=206323&page=14" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?t=206323&page=14</a>As for the problem....*shrug*1s are considered a failure. If that sucks, change it. Anytime you use a creature or a spell that has consequences like people being charmed or save-or-die or whatever, yeah you're running a risk of a TPK. That's been the case for 30 years, and quite a few game systems.I think calling this an "Epic Fight turns into Epic Farse" is a bit misleading. Most people that play D&D aren't going to consider a level 6 character "epic". It's still down in the "most zero" instead of "big damn hero" in terms of the way the overall powers and abilities are set up.I ran an E8 game for a year. It went fine. You do have to watch out for some of these sorts of things, because often there's not a lot to deal with it.See, there's a nasty side effect. A lot of the people that like E6/E8 play like it as a way of doing a "low magic" and "gritty" game. So that means that in addition to capping skills, hit points, and all that other stuff, magic is going to be in shorter supply as well.Monsters in general aren't really geared that way. They expect a certain amount of magic to be present to deal with them. Either in the form of spells, items, or something like that.At the end of the day though, the GM just has to ask themselves a few simple questions... what happens if everyone fails their saving throw? Is that an outcome I'm fine with? How can I fix it so that failure doesn't equal a TPK.To be honest, this seems an awful lot more a matter of GMing style than system.</blockquote>

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