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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Runestar" data-source="post: 4398906" data-attributes="member: 72317">Crap happens - learn to deal with it. Do you think the men who faced the mythical medusa had the luxury of making 3 saves over the course of multiple rounds? Heck, I don't think they even had the benefit of a fort save!If you are facing multiple harpies who love to spam their captivating song, counter it with silence or something. 3e is admitably a little more "all or nothing" in this aspect. You either get affected bad, or are outright immune to its effects because of the myriad of buffs available to you. Not sure if it is necessarily a bad idea - since I feel that it helps emphasize the deadliness of these monsters, if a failed save or 2 all but means sure doom. Keeps the game tense, because you know that the tide could easily swing either way due to the most fickle of women - lady luck. You don't just go storming into their lair expecting an easy kill. You need to research and understand your enemies properly, then take the appropriate counter-measures before victory can be assured. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>