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<blockquote data-quote="evildmguy" data-source="post: 4399818" data-attributes="member: 6092">I really want to know the demographics of all of the people who have responded that &quot;save or sit out&quot; effects are okay.&nbsp; What do you do during that time?&nbsp; Is sitting there listening to others play as fun as playing yourself?&nbsp; How often do you play?&nbsp; How long did you travel to play?&nbsp; As for myself, I play with with people who all have professional full times jobs, most are married, and some have kids.&nbsp; We get one night a week to play for about four hours, maybe four and a half.&nbsp; Some of them travel thirty five minutes to play, so that pushes their time commitment up higher.&nbsp; (I host as the DM.)&nbsp; I also play in a group that meets perhaps three times a year over a weekend to game.&nbsp; We probably play twelve hours or so.&nbsp; Anymore in gaming, I dislike &quot;save or sit out&quot; effects because of our group.&nbsp; My players are looking for something fun to do, and they have chosen gaming.&nbsp; To have them have to sit there for more than ten minutes without being involved in the actions is bad.&nbsp; More than that, and it's almost rude.&nbsp; Some of them don't have tons of time and if it isn't fun, they have many other commitments they could do instead.&nbsp; As the DM, I am looking to entertain them.&nbsp; I don't see how sitting there and doing nothing is fun.&nbsp; Maybe that's just me.&nbsp; edg</blockquote>

[QUOTE="evildmguy, post: 4399818, member: 6092"] I really want to know the demographics of all of the people who have responded that "save or sit out" effects are okay. What do you do during that time? Is sitting there listening to others play as fun as playing yourself? How often do you play? How long did you travel to play? As for myself, I play with with people who all have professional full times jobs, most are married, and some have kids. We get one night a week to play for about four hours, maybe four and a half. Some of them travel thirty five minutes to play, so that pushes their time commitment up higher. (I host as the DM.) I also play in a group that meets perhaps three times a year over a weekend to game. We probably play twelve hours or so. Anymore in gaming, I dislike "save or sit out" effects because of our group. My players are looking for something fun to do, and they have chosen gaming. To have them have to sit there for more than ten minutes without being involved in the actions is bad. More than that, and it's almost rude. Some of them don't have tons of time and if it isn't fun, they have many other commitments they could do instead. As the DM, I am looking to entertain them. I don't see how sitting there and doing nothing is fun. Maybe that's just me. edg [/QUOTE]

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