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<blockquote data-quote="wally" data-source="post: 4404597" data-attributes="member: 3578"><p>Actually it is how you look at it. If I, as a fighter, never had to deal with any risk because the great and powerful magi in the realm couldn't kill me with a single spell instantly, I wouldn't see any great risk in running right into their lair and swinging away at whatever minions were there. No big deal, and nothing really to brag about.</p><p></p><p>However, if the great and powerful magi of the realm could kill me with a word, I would see a great risk at just running in, and I would try to prepare by getting my own magi to help, or getting some sort of magic protection to help me, and so on, until I was ready, and upon defeating, I would want to brag as I did what so many others failed to do.</p><p></p><p>You can create it with a metagame attitude or not, that is your choice.</p><p></p><p>I don't see how the risk is there with 4e when there is no save or die spells. Nobody can kill me with a word, and if I am afflicted with something that may take permanent effect in a minute or so, then it seems to me that the gods are always going to be on my side to allow me more than enough time to take care of whatever 'high-powered' magi might be trying to kill me.</p><p></p><p>I think 4e is encouraging more of the metagame mindset by saying that the characters will always be safe because the player doesn't want to have a single moment of not being able to act.</p><p></p><p>-wally</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wally, post: 4404597, member: 3578"] Actually it is how you look at it. If I, as a fighter, never had to deal with any risk because the great and powerful magi in the realm couldn't kill me with a single spell instantly, I wouldn't see any great risk in running right into their lair and swinging away at whatever minions were there. No big deal, and nothing really to brag about. However, if the great and powerful magi of the realm could kill me with a word, I would see a great risk at just running in, and I would try to prepare by getting my own magi to help, or getting some sort of magic protection to help me, and so on, until I was ready, and upon defeating, I would want to brag as I did what so many others failed to do. You can create it with a metagame attitude or not, that is your choice. I don't see how the risk is there with 4e when there is no save or die spells. Nobody can kill me with a word, and if I am afflicted with something that may take permanent effect in a minute or so, then it seems to me that the gods are always going to be on my side to allow me more than enough time to take care of whatever 'high-powered' magi might be trying to kill me. I think 4e is encouraging more of the metagame mindset by saying that the characters will always be safe because the player doesn't want to have a single moment of not being able to act. -wally [/QUOTE]
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