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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ruleslawyer" data-source="post: 1184036" data-attributes="member: 1757">I wasn't referring to non-epic class bonus feats "turning" epic, but fine. The book does say this, but both Andy and Bruce have said that the p.8 text is INCORRECT. You can stand on your high horse and trumpet the "primary source rule" as much as you like, but interpreting the p.8 text to mean that bonus feats from non-epic class levels can be used to acquire epic bonus feats is nonsense and you know it.   I have no idea why the designers haven't bothered to issue an erratum on the matter, but that doesn't change the fact that both of them think the p.8 text is erroneous, and given the fact that it creates serious logical problems with regard to multiclass character advancement, I'd say it needs to be interpreted according to the designers' intent.The FAQ does NOT "decline to claim it is correcting or updating the referenced sidebar text." It says the following:That is a ruling that directly contradicts, and as such corrects, the ELH p.25 text. Moreover, the fact that the FAQ ruling cites p.25 does NOT render it "utterly bankrupt," because the p.25 text doesn't really give much credence to ECL's effect on "epic" status. While it does say that ECL counts "in any other place in [the ELH]" that refers to epic levels, the only real effect this has is to allow characters of ECL 21+ to choose epic feats with their character level feats (e.g., a svirfneblin Rog18 could take an epic feat with his CL 18/ECL 21 feat).In summary: The issue isn't as cut-and-dried as you seem to think, Pax. Nor are any of my points as "utterly untrue" as you seem to be claiming, for no rhetorical reason I can understand.Oh well...</blockquote>

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