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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HEL Pit Fiend" data-source="post: 1015607" data-attributes="member: 5971">Epic Spells are just fineI recommend tinkering around with the seeds and combining some of them.  The most devastating and powerful epic spells were developed last year by myself and a fellow player in our group that cost NO personal xp and backlash damage for casting them.  The average DCs were around 65 to 75, which is easily attainable for most 24th level wizards.  And no magic item or heigtened, maximized, empowered, 16th level spell could compare, and they were worth every single gp of the 550,000 gps cost.</blockquote>