the Jester
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What sort of level increase would you give a metamagic feat that changed a range of personal to a range of touch?
And what would you call it? Transfer spell?
And what would you call it? Transfer spell?
Er, Maybe Transfer Spell? -Help!
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the Jester
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Well, I'm less worried about true strike on the fighter and more worried about things like antimagic shell on the fighter.
Think about it: here's a lich, and boom! -the high-level paladin comes rushing in, full of antimagic...
Here are a few of the spells I worry might cause issues: antimagic shell, imbue with spell ability, contingency, hide life, righteous might, divine power (on your rogue), iron body...
Actually, I just looked- antimagic field's range is listed at 10', though that's silly. It's clearly a personal emanation... but that saves me one big worry!
Anyone else have any more feedback on this? Or a better name? (I don't like Share Spell either- makes me think of the ability to actually 'share' your spells with a familiar- but Transfer Spell, as a name, frankly sux).
Think about it: here's a lich, and boom! -the high-level paladin comes rushing in, full of antimagic...
Here are a few of the spells I worry might cause issues: antimagic shell, imbue with spell ability, contingency, hide life, righteous might, divine power (on your rogue), iron body...
Actually, I just looked- antimagic field's range is listed at 10', though that's silly. It's clearly a personal emanation... but that saves me one big worry!
Anyone else have any more feedback on this? Or a better name? (I don't like Share Spell either- makes me think of the ability to actually 'share' your spells with a familiar- but Transfer Spell, as a name, frankly sux).
the Jester said:
Slap Spell. If you put it in a metamagic rod, it would be a Slap Spell Stick.
+1 seems low. What's the ELH epic spell DC for increasing a spell from range personal to touch? Is it higher than +2? That would indicate a +1 spell level for something like this. I'd go +2 myself.
the Jester
Legend
Looks like the Epic DC mod is +2, but I still don't think a +1 is good enough for this- I'm gonna go +2, I guess, but I still need a better name...
(Not that Slap Spell isn't amusing, but, well, ya know.)
(Not that Slap Spell isn't amusing, but, well, ya know.)
the Jester said:
I've read through most of this thread, but I just cant see putting this feat at +2. Now I believe that most metamagics are overcosted to some degree anyway. They cost you a feat, and extra slots, while the return is no where near as good as what you gave up. So at +1 this seems like a very-weak-but-interesting feat. Why +2???
The only reason I could see not to make it just a flat +0 is because of persistant spell. Which would make this feat a +1. (although I freely admit that I think still/silent/etc should come with a 2 for 1 sort of deal).
Just putting forward my vote for +1
the Jester
Legend
ciaran00 said:
I'm concerned about it too, which is why my insticts refuse to allow it as a +1 level. I've told the player (this is for Lester's cohort Orbius, who wasn't around in your day, alas) that we'll go it at +2 for now, until I see something that screams out 'too abusive' to me.
Soo... when is Hobbes gettin' back in the action??
Terraism
Explorer
Sword & Sorcery's Players Guide to Wizards, Sorcerer's, and Bards has such a feat, titled Shunt Focus. It only boosts the spell level by one - I was initially leery of it, but we've been using it for around five sessions now, and haven't had any big issues with it. Then again, we're still at fourth and fifth level, so it might change at higher levels.
