Eric "Shade" Jansing (1971-2012)

Cleon

Hero
Eric helped push the Creature Catalog so close to finishing all the monsters, that I think I'd love to see the process get finished and turned into one or more netbooks* that are dedicated to his memory, a bit like the way that CGR1 The Complete Spacefarer's Handbook is dedicated to TSR designer Curtis Scott.

* = There is so much here, that I'm not sure it would fit into one netbook. And it is possible that niche netbooks (like Creature Catalog presents: Monsters of Imagine Magazine" or "Creature Catalog presents: Monsters of Kara-Tur") could be dovetailed with appendices that include some of the information we have here in non-conversion threads. The collectors lists would be useful. We have had some rambling conversations about the individual monsters, but perhaps a couple of small quotes could be included as notes in a sidebar or in a "how the monsters got converted" appendix. It would need to be summarised, but perhaps you could show how the conclusions were reached.

That's a tempting idea. Doing it properly would require a lot of work, although it'd be worth it.

It would certainly be better to cut the list up into smaller netbooks. There are approximately 1685 monster entries in the current Creature Catalog, excluding the Creature Crypt, and only counting monsters with both 3.0 and 3.5 stats once. We've also got a bunch of monsters in Homebrew that haven't been added to the CC yet. I'm not sure how many, but I believe it's not an insignificant number.

A 1700+ monster pdf seems a bit unwieldy. The WotC Monster Manual hardbacks have, what, 150 or so monsters each?
 

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Cleon

Hero
My favourite monster conversions have to be the ones that were only partially designed in the original products. My all time favourite would be the Silver Silactic. :cool:

I don't think I could pick a favourite monster, there are so many I like (and I wouldn't want to hurt the feeling of the other monsters :p). I do have a fondness for the Tasked Genies conversions we did, those ended up as a nice set of critters.

Oddly enough, the first monster I contributed towards converting was the Arucha, which was the next Ooze converted after the Silatics. I only signed up to Enworld to ask Demiurge for a copy of his World of Kong document, but then the Enworld monster conversions sucked me in...

Shade's mostly to blame for that, and I'll always be thankful to him for it.
 

Big Mac

Explorer
That's a tempting idea. Doing it properly would require a lot of work, although it'd be worth it.

Going with something small (like Imagine Magazine monsters) would probably be a way to test the concept.

Art would be something that would need to be looked into to "do it properly". We might need a bit of fan art for each monster. :eek:

Cover art might also be useful, although we might find someone on DeviantArt that would donate something.

Does anyone know what that dragon picture is that Shade has as his avatar? It would be nice to have that on the back cover of any hypothetical book.

It would certainly be better to cut the list up into smaller netbooks. There are approximately 1685 monster entries in the current Creature Catalog, excluding the Creature Crypt, and only counting monsters with both 3.0 and 3.5 stats once. We've also got a bunch of monsters in Homebrew that haven't been added to the CC yet. I'm not sure how many, but I believe it's not an insignificant number.

Creature Catalog was really about conversions, but there is no reason why the non-converted monsters could not be put into a "Creature Catalog presents Homebrew monsters" netbook, so that nothing Shade or others worked on gets wasted.

A 1700+ monster pdf seems a bit unwieldy. The WotC Monster Manual hardbacks have, what, 150 or so monsters each?

That guess sounds about right. I'd say the Creature Catalog would need about 12 netbooks on that basis. But if you look at the way that many of the monsters come from specific campaign settings, it might make sense to do (some if not all) netbooks on a per-setting basis.
 

BOZ

Creature Cataloguer
If the Creature Catalog was converted to one or more netbooks, do you think it would be appropriate (and legal) to mention the college fund in an appendix at the back? I already said that a netbook (that held useful stuff that lots of gamers would want) would be a great way to get the message across. If there are gamers out there that are willing to donate cash to Kickstarter projects, maybe a percentage would throw a bit of "thank you" cash towards Eric.

I think we should clear that with his wife out of courtesy, but I can't see her saying no. She is extremely nice from the few interactions I've had with her.

The harder part would be getting WotC to agree to it. Doing the CC for free didn't seem to be a problem, but we would absolutely need some kind of licensing agreement to do it for cash.
 

freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
Shade's avatar is the deep dragon illustration from the 3e Monsters of Faerun book, so I don't think that's something we can use.

Well, if we didn't charge and just mentioned the memorial fund, would we need the licensing? But there are maybe other issues --- I don't think we've followed the OGL properly really, and I don't know what kind of agreement the CC has with WotC that allows us to convert all their old monsters.

EDIT: I've split out a separate planning thread for this sort of discussion, so we can save this more for memories of Shade.
 
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freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
I've been thinking about this a lot recently, and I just want to say to all of you that I appreciate the community we have here. Thank you. I wish I'd thought to say this to Shade, too.
 



RavinRay

Explorer
Shade's avatar is the deep dragon illustration from the 3e Monsters of Faerun book, so I don't think that's something we can use.
freyar, it's the shadow dragon, (reused in Draconomicon) not deep, which is appropriate for his username.
EDIT: I've split out a separate planning thread for this sort of discussion, so we can save this more for memories of Shade.
Good. Gotta check that out.
 

Cleon

Hero
I'm glad to see this thread's been moved to the "stickies" at the top of the forum. This seems the right place for it.

Incidentally, I got an email yesterday that a contribution I'd posted to Eric's memorial fund had arrived. It seemed the least I could do.
 

BOZ

Creature Cataloguer
That's good news. :)

For those who do Facebook, see the "recent posts by others" section, where you'll see comments from me and a few others you might recognize. One of the responses indicates that they might be just fine with the netbook idea.

http://www.facebook.com/EricJansing
 

Clefton Twain

First Post
Just an update or two. Eric's wife has been having some complications and has been in the hospital off and on for a couple of weeks. She had surgery yesterday and we all hope that this is the end of it all. It's been a rough ride for her.

So I don't know where she stands on certain things like the netbook or other issues that I've been asked. Hopefully everything will sort itself out and things can return to normal. Then she can devote a little attention to the questions you guys have posed.

In the meantime, keep her in your thoughts, prayers, or spellbooks. :)

--CT
 

freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
Thanks for giving us an update, Clefton. It must be very difficult for her (and their kids). Certainly, worrying about the netbook should wait until things settle down for her!
 

freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
In Memoriam

We have our first update to the Creature Catalog, posting here for anyone who'd otherwise miss it.

In Memoriam

In June, Eric Jansing, known here as Shade, departed for the Outer Planes, leaving us without our leader and friend. Shade became a CC moderator and admin in 2005, and this is the first CC update in over 5 years that Shade didn't make himself. In honor of his tireless efforts in monster conversion, the CC crew will continue our project of updating every D&D monster to 3.5e; Cleon and I will take over the updating duties. We hope these critters bring you the same joy that Shade's work brought to us and so many others.

Shade was an equal opportunity "monster junkie," as he proudly called himself, so it was difficult to choose monsters for this first update. These include some of the monsters Shade helped convert in his last year (the gohei p'oh, jagwere, snapper tortle, and werejaguar), two epic monsters (the draeden and the Tree of Wailing Souls), some shadowy undead (the shadowrath, greater shadowrath, and soul beckoner), and the greater lammasu (to represent Shade's role in our community).

Rest in peace, Eric. We will miss you.
 

dhaga

First Post
My first visit to the creature catalog in far too long, and some very sad news to greet me.

I have fond memories of working with Shade on creature conversion projects, several years ago. He was always a pleasure to work with.

Goodbye, Shade. You are missed dearly!
 

Echohawk

Shirokinukatsukami fan
Shade has been in my thoughts a lot recently.

Just over a month ago, one of my very good friends returned home on a Sunday night to discover that he had been robbed. Unfortunately for him, the robbers were still inside the house. When my friend entered the room they were hiding in, they attacked him, stabbing him several times with a knife and bludgeoning him over the head with a heavy object. His neighbors heard his screams for help and immediately called the police, but by the time they arrived, he was already dead and the robbers had fled.

The weekend before he died, our gaming group had gotten together at my house. Unusually, everyone decided to stayed over for that whole weekend, so there were plenty of board games played and lots of socializing took place, as well as an eight hour D&D session. I am very grateful that the last time I saw my friend was for such a fun-filled weekend.

Losing someone that you game with regularly is slightly different to losing a friend that you don't game with. You don't have to say goodbye to just one person, but also to the characters he played. At the end of last year, we finished the heroic tier of our extended 4e campaign, in which the heroes led a large scale assault on the lair of a powerful lich-lord whom they eventually overcame in a climatic battle. One consequence of this is that a statue of the heroes who led the charge is being built in their hometown. It is strangely comforting to know that although my friend will never have another chance to play his character, that character will forever be immortalized in stone in our gaming group's shared collective imagination.

Shade, it has been almost a year now since you left us. But you are not forgotten. I often think of your contributions to D&D monster lore when I am looking up monsters in my index, and I still get a lump in my throat each time I stumble upon one of your posts to the ENWorld forums.

But wherever you might be now, if you happen to come across a fellow traveller who plays a goliath with a huge sword and a tendency to stumble into awkward situations, or a shadar-kai bard who sees only in black-and-white because he traded his color-vision with a hag for a favor, I hope you'll be kind enough to invite him to join you at your gaming table. It pleases me greatly to think that he might have a kind and wise fellow gamer with whom to continue his adventures.
 

freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
Shade has been in my thoughts a lot recently.

Just over a month ago, one of my very good friends returned home on a Sunday night to discover that he had been robbed. Unfortunately for him, the robbers were still inside the house. When my friend entered the room they were hiding in, they attacked him, stabbing him several times with a knife and bludgeoning him over the head with a heavy object. His neighbors heard his screams for help and immediately called the police, but by the time they arrived, he was already dead and the robbers had fled.

The weekend before he died, our gaming group had gotten together at my house. Unusually, everyone decided to stayed over for that whole weekend, so there were plenty of board games played and lots of socializing took place, as well as an eight hour D&D session. I am very grateful that the last time I saw my friend was for such a fun-filled weekend.

Losing someone that you game with regularly is slightly different to losing a friend that you don't game with. You don't have to say goodbye to just one person, but also to the characters he played. At the end of last year, we finished the heroic tier of our extended 4e campaign, in which the heroes led a large scale assault on the lair of a powerful lich-lord whom they eventually overcame in a climatic battle. One consequence of this is that a statue of the heroes who led the charge is being built in their hometown. It is strangely comforting to know that although my friend will never have another chance to play his character, that character will forever be immortalized in stone in our gaming group's shared collective imagination.

Shade, it has been almost a year now since you left us. But you are not forgotten. I often think of your contributions to D&D monster lore when I am looking up monsters in my index, and I still get a lump in my throat each time I stumble upon one of your posts to the ENWorld forums.

But wherever you might be now, if you happen to come across a fellow traveller who plays a goliath with a huge sword and a tendency to stumble into awkward situations, or a shadar-kai bard who sees only in black-and-white because he traded his color-vision with a hag for a favor, I hope you'll be kind enough to invite him to join you at your gaming table. It pleases me greatly to think that he might have a kind and wise fellow gamer with whom to continue his adventures.

Echohawk, I'm very sorry for your loss. I wish I could offer you more effective consolation, but please remember that you are always welcome in the CC or to send a PM if you want.
 

Echohawk

Shirokinukatsukami fan
Echohawk, I'm very sorry for your loss. I wish I could offer you more effective consolation, but please remember that you are always welcome in the CC or to send a PM if you want.
Thanks for the kind words freyar, I appreciate them.

I do still visit the CC relatively frequently, although I realise I only rarely contribute anything :(.

As a complete aside, I recently started work on a new indexing project, this time trying to catalog all of the D&D maps that have been published over the years. While I'm busy with that, I'm also touching up the monster index slightly, and when I get to the later 4e publications, I'm going to add the missing 4e monsters to the index at the same time I catalog the maps.

I'm about 5% done with the maps so far, so I should have a complete index of both monsters and maps about two years from now. :hmm:

Then maybe I'll do spells. Or magic items. Or something... :lol:
 



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