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Essentials and the future of D&D

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So here would be my timeline:

2012-13 - revised core rulebooks
2015ish - 5th edition
2020-2030 - rapid developments in virtual technology and aging of Gen-Xers leads to steep decline of tabletop RPGs.
2025ish - 6th edition - the first entirely non-paper D&D (perhaps to coincide with the 50th anniversary in 2024?).
2050 - the Singularity finally occurs and 95% of the population downloads into computers; a few stray luddites and old school gamers remain, clutching their dice bags into the grave.

2012 - 13 The Essential Books Rules Compendium and the Heros books are the revised books as far as I can tell.

2015'ish ebooks on smartphones and slates will be matching the sales of paperbacks and WoTC will be releasing all new product in the winning ebook format as well as in book form.

The Character Builder and the Adventure Tools will integrate with the new Neverwinter 2 online multiplayer game circa 2025

Around 2050 Asmodeous will become selfaware on the Neverwinter servers. 2000 years later the last remaining humans will be huddled in Greenland under the rule of tryannical sorcerer kings who have defiled the land.
 

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2012 - Hasbro responds by taking D&D in-house, publishes a prettied up version of B/E/C (no M/I) D&D in a mass market boxed set and keeps it as an evergreen product, ending all further support. Proving placement trumps marketing, it sits firmly in sales between Trouble and Sorry! for the next two decades. Some guy who never heard of D&D two years prior gets an award and a big raise.

And several others are fired for forgetting that placement is marketing.
 


5th edition:

Mages are as awesome and versatile as they were in 3rd edition, yet still balanced with everyone else and every other class is still fun to play. The ultimate balance is reached and everyone who loved 3rd for 3rd and 4th for 4th unites in the great gamer revolution.

Consequently they bring back kender as a main PHB race much to the chagrin of DMS worldwide.
 

My predictions...

5E will happen sometime between 2013 and 2015. It will be a genuine new edition, requiring people to buy all-new books, but it will not be a revision on the scale of 3E --> 4E, or even 2E --> 3E. It will be more along the lines of 1E --> 2E.

4E represented a gigantic experiment. There were a whole lot of new concepts introduced and the entire system was rebuilt from the ground up. Some of those new concepts worked well as designed, others didn't work so well but were fixable, and others more or less bombed. Essentials is an effort to fix what can be fixed within the system as is. 5E will address the rest.

Technology-wise, I think much will depend on how Cryptic's new Neverwinter Nights game turns out. I have a suspicion that WotC regards NWN as a replacement for the Virtual Tabletop we heard so much about a couple years ago. At this point, it's pretty clear that Gleemax* and the VTT have been written off as total failures; but if Cryptic makes a go of NWN, WotC will make a deal with them to build a replacement based on the NWN engine.

[size=-2]*It still boggles my mind that somebody thought "Gleemax" was a good name.[/size]
 

My predictions...

5E will happen sometime between 2013 and 2015. It will be a genuine new edition, requiring people to buy all-new books, but it will not be a revision on the scale of 3E --> 4E, or even 2E --> 3E. It will be more along the lines of 1E --> 2E.

4E represented a gigantic experiment. There were a whole lot of new concepts introduced and the entire system was rebuilt from the ground up. Some of those new concepts worked well as designed, others didn't work so well but were fixable, and others more or less bombed. Essentials is an effort to fix what can be fixed within the system as is. 5E will address the rest.

Technology-wise, I think much will depend on how Cryptic's new Neverwinter Nights game turns out. I have a suspicion that WotC regards NWN as a replacement for the Virtual Tabletop we heard so much about a couple years ago. At this point, it's pretty clear that Gleemax* and the VTT have been written off as total failures; but if Cryptic makes a go of NWN, WotC will make a deal with them to build a replacement based on the NWN engine.

[SIZE=-2]*It still boggles my mind that somebody thought "Gleemax" was a good name.[/SIZE]
I am inclined to agree with you on the new Neverwinter games being a possible trial for a replacement of the VTT and so forth.

I also agree on Gleemax as a name, it smelled of someting cooked upby a comittee.

Not so sure in the new edition though.
 

5th edition:

Mages are as awesome and versatile as they were in 3rd edition, yet still balanced with everyone else and every other class is still fun to play. The ultimate balance is reached and everyone who loved 3rd for 3rd and 4th for 4th unites in the great gamer revolution.

Ahh...the Holy Grail of fantasy game design (or at least D&D): how to make mages awesome and balanced. Actually, this is inspiring me to start a post on it...


My predictions...

5E will happen sometime between 2013 and 2015. It will be a genuine new edition, requiring people to buy all-new books, but it will not be a revision on the scale of 3E --> 4E, or even 2E --> 3E. It will be more along the lines of 1E --> 2E.

4E represented a gigantic experiment. There were a whole lot of new concepts introduced and the entire system was rebuilt from the ground up. Some of those new concepts worked well as designed, others didn't work so well but were fixable, and others more or less bombed. Essentials is an effort to fix what can be fixed within the system as is. 5E will address the rest.

Technology-wise, I think much will depend on how Cryptic's new Neverwinter Nights game turns out. I have a suspicion that WotC regards NWN as a replacement for the Virtual Tabletop we heard so much about a couple years ago. At this point, it's pretty clear that Gleemax* and the VTT have been written off as total failures; but if Cryptic makes a go of NWN, WotC will make a deal with them to build a replacement based on the NWN engine.

[SIZE=-2]*It still boggles my mind that somebody thought "Gleemax" was a good name.[/SIZE]

Good predictions, although I wonder about 2013--that would seem too soon, especially with Essentials coming out.

I wouldn't be surprised to see WotC find a smoother way to transition from one edition to another. As some have mentioned--including myself--the times of edition cycles may be at an end; Essentials may be the harbinger of "jumping off the wheel" and taking a different, more open-ended and gradual approach. This doesn't mean there won't be a 5E, but that by the time we get there it will be relatively painless (and thus less controversial) because a bunch of incremental changes (through errata, D&D Insider, etc) will have gradually changed the game. "5E" may simply be a new round of revisions and formatting--the next version of the core books, with new covers, formatting, art, but still 4E compatible, or at least Essentials-compatible.

So if I were WotC I would try to find a way to make buying new rounds of books appealing without the resulting fallout. One way to do this is what they seem to be doing: rather than only making signficant rules changes with a new edition, integrate change as a regular and expected aspect of the game. D&D Insider makes this possible. A new "edition" of the core books is less like a total re-booting of the game and more like a "state of the nation" (or game) printing. It is a representation, in other words, of where the open-ended and ever-changing game is at a certain time.

To put it another way, I imagine that in the past WotC has compiled a list of changes they would like to make for the next edition of D&D. Rather than saving them up for that next edition, those changes can be (and are being) implemented more frequently, within the current edition. So when "5E" comes out it is more of a marker for "the changes thus far" and thus more contiguous with all that came before.

If what I'm saying is true then we could see that sooner than later, maybe corresponding to your dates.
 

I am inclined to agree with you on the new Neverwinter games being a possible trial for a replacement of the VTT and so forth.

Didn't one of the editions of Neverwinter Nights support a DM? Even if not, the forst one definitely had a create your own adventure aspect that at least tended in the direction of moving the table-top experience online.
 

Didn't one of the editions of Neverwinter Nights support a DM? Even if not, the forst one definitely had a create your own adventure aspect that at least tended in the direction of moving the table-top experience online.

The last verison of Neverwinter Nights (1&2) both had a DM client. In theory, you could create adventures, maps, monsters and treasures to allow players to log-in and play under. It supported real-time VOIP, and allowed the DM to change things "on-the-fly", possessing NPCs and overriding dialog/scripts, etc.

In theory.

In actuality, it was hard to use. Maps could not be adjusted on the fly, and pre-creating scenarios (such as branching dialog or complex character actions) required extensive knowledge of their scripting language, which was neither intuitive or easy (about on par with learning HTML without a WYSIWYG editor). Similarly, the DM had amazing powers, but it was just as easy to mess things up (break scripts) as it was to adjust.

I applaud their try at it, but the amount of complexity made it a large barrier to casual DMs trying it out. OTOH, it did create a HUGE modding/module community, from converting the classics to all new premium modules.

I would hope NW does a better job on lowering the barrier to entry.
 

Or perhaps Google becomes self-aware on December 21st, 2012, as predicted in the Mayan Gogol Fuh.

I have this mental image of a self-aware Google, and it ain't pretty:

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Scary...

Make-believe timelines are fun...

2011 - WotC has two rounds of layoffs.

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2012 - WotC has two rounds of layoffs.

...

2013 - WotC has two rounds of layoffs.

2014-2027 - Twenty-eight rounds of layoffs at WotC. At the end, the last two employees lay each other off,

That sounds about right to me... :p
 

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