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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5379159" data-attributes="member: 87792">So that's 2d8 with a rapier or longsword. Low end striker (the rogue should be doing 3d6 +2 with a shortsword with +1 to hit at 2nd level - the +2 counteracted by daily powers) but it relatively comfortably beats out any non-striker I think. I can live with that. (Especially as my favourite pre-essentials strikers are the warlock and the monk).&nbsp;Wouldn't they have re-written it as a power so that you no longer do +1d6 damage on your garotte or unarmed attack? Which makes it only 2d4+dex? Still nasty if it's kept the -4 to escape rolls and sustain for auto damage.&nbsp;&nbsp;That works.&nbsp;&nbsp;Surprisingly I'm not in favour. Cuts flexibility and extensibility. They still have that silly jitte charge for the melee one? - and how does it work if it doesn't get the d8 damage bonus on a basic as it only did +4 damage anyway? And which did they drop from the ranged?&nbsp;&nbsp;Good riddance. Complex, clunky, and irritating. Garottes do almost the same job but more elegantly. (Of course it means that one of the best assassin feats is Superior Fortitude).&nbsp;&nbsp;Yay. Situational but when it works it works.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 5379159, member: 87792"] So that's 2d8 with a rapier or longsword. Low end striker (the rogue should be doing 3d6 +2 with a shortsword with +1 to hit at 2nd level - the +2 counteracted by daily powers) but it relatively comfortably beats out any non-striker I think. I can live with that. (Especially as my favourite pre-essentials strikers are the warlock and the monk). Wouldn't they have re-written it as a power so that you no longer do +1d6 damage on your garotte or unarmed attack? Which makes it only 2d4+dex? Still nasty if it's kept the -4 to escape rolls and sustain for auto damage. That works. Surprisingly I'm not in favour. Cuts flexibility and extensibility. They still have that silly jitte charge for the melee one? - and how does it work if it doesn't get the d8 damage bonus on a basic as it only did +4 damage anyway? And which did they drop from the ranged? Good riddance. Complex, clunky, and irritating. Garottes do almost the same job but more elegantly. (Of course it means that one of the best assassin feats is Superior Fortitude). Yay. Situational but when it works it works. [/QUOTE]

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