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[twilsemail]

Source for this statement, please.

Depends on how much reading you want to do. I don't have internet sources off the top of my head. Don't feel much like searching around the internet for them.

And that reveals all I need to really know. Believe it or not, most LORDS (that would have had the money and tools for this type of armor) did NOT do what you see in some movies and some do in their Fantasy Medieval warrior play...they actually did NOT LEAD any charge. They felt being at the front was a good way to get themselves killed.

You might want to read up on some books instead of a retailer, but hey...who cares about valid history anyways.
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Anyways, as I already said...you've demonstrated already that it's pointless even discussing the basic tactics used during the day. This is why I always hated these medieval reinactment groups. I know some professors love them because they get people interested in the period, but they spread just as much disinformation as getting people interested. I'm glad that you have information on armors made with modern metals...from people who make it their job to make fantasy a reality for Hollywood, but I think your Hollywood and my books are talking two different languages here. Very good at making modern replicas, highly suggested if you can afford them...but really a different wavelength between history and their replica business.

Edit: Actually, the better wording would be that they are not talking different then what I'm really looking at...the emphasis being more on your Hollywood and my books...rather than specifically anything the Hollywood armorers are looking at. Your interpretation and relavance of them is the different wavelength here. No offense intended, I'm not trying to slight the armorers as they don't appear to be in the wrong...but I think (besides your lack of tactics in the situation) you are trying to apply a mass scale armor to a specific small scale creation during the age...and that simply doesn't work.

tl;dr version of the above:
Dausuul ~ Polite request for a source followed by informative posts.

GreyLord ~ repeated insults directed at Darsuul. No Source.


GreyLord, do you actually have a source for anything you've said? You seem to be pulling your info off of the History Channel, as far as I can tell.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Granted, but no matter how dense the armor is, it won't burden you more in water than it would in air. If you can stand up on dry land, you can stand up in a stream.

I suppose you might have a problem with the padding under the armor soaking up water and becoming correspondingly heavier. But I still can't believe the extra weight would be enough to prevent you standing up.

Granted... I thought more about actually swimming.

edit: actually standing up under water should be more easy than in air, as the buoyancy in water is higher, which is the reason why astronauts actually train under water in their MMUs which weight up to 150kg (about 300lbs for those resiting to use the metric system which prevents space vehicles from missing their destination)