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<blockquote data-quote="Howndawg" data-source="post: 5329668" data-attributes="member: 54639"><p>Some observations of mine:</p><p></p><p>1. The cleric, for the first time since 2e, is not MAD. You can dump a warpriest's CHA instead of DEX or INT. No longer do clerics have to complain about sucking at religion.</p><p></p><p>2. The thief can be a real skill monkey! Epic skill mastery gives a +3 bonus to all skills. If your thief is smart enough to take Jack-o-T and Disciple of Lore, he can really be a total skill ace.</p><p></p><p>3. The disciple feats (I hope that is the right name, I don't have the book with me) usually have a mental ability as a prereq. They aren't limited to divine characters and you can have as many of them as you want. Finally, mental abilities don't get the feat shaft.</p><p></p><p>4. Heroic Effort means a human in a V class doesn't have to worry about being saddled with an undesirable at-will. </p><p></p><p>5. I've noticed the book tries to avoid CRPG talk. I don't recall seeing the word "build" mentioned at all.</p><p></p><p>6. I love the new iconics! Dendric the knight has a kite shield! Death to dungeonpunk<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />!!!</p><p></p><p>Overall, I thought HotFL was great, and not just for newbies. Experienced gamers who want a bit more old school thrown into 4e should definitely check it out. Now to get down to the RC... Maybe after class tomorrow.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Howndawg, post: 5329668, member: 54639"] Some observations of mine: 1. The cleric, for the first time since 2e, is not MAD. You can dump a warpriest's CHA instead of DEX or INT. No longer do clerics have to complain about sucking at religion. 2. The thief can be a real skill monkey! Epic skill mastery gives a +3 bonus to all skills. If your thief is smart enough to take Jack-o-T and Disciple of Lore, he can really be a total skill ace. 3. The disciple feats (I hope that is the right name, I don't have the book with me) usually have a mental ability as a prereq. They aren't limited to divine characters and you can have as many of them as you want. Finally, mental abilities don't get the feat shaft. 4. Heroic Effort means a human in a V class doesn't have to worry about being saddled with an undesirable at-will. 5. I've noticed the book tries to avoid CRPG talk. I don't recall seeing the word "build" mentioned at all. 6. I love the new iconics! Dendric the knight has a kite shield! Death to dungeonpunk:D!!! Overall, I thought HotFL was great, and not just for newbies. Experienced gamers who want a bit more old school thrown into 4e should definitely check it out. Now to get down to the RC... Maybe after class tomorrow. [/QUOTE]
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