Essentials - warden ?

[Istar]

Anything in the pipleline for an essentials warden ???

 

[MerricB]

I can't see any reason why there would be.

 

[Istar]

I can't see any reason why there would be.

Well they are doing Essentials Rogue, what is so no-essential about Warden ??

 

[DEFCON 1]

Well they are doing Essentials Rogue, what is so no-essential about Warden ??

Essentials was created so that they could "reprint" in 4E most of the traditional D&D classes without going to 4.5E... partly in hopes of getting fans of the older editions back interested in the product (and partly because you're more likely to sell books that include these traditional D&D classes). With the exception of the warlock... the Essentials classes are all 2E or earlier classes (fighter, ranger, cleric, paladin, druid, rogue, assassin, wizard-- some of which were known by other names obviously). As warden is not a traditional D&D class... a class that no non-4Eers would be aware of or care about from a tradition standpoint... there's no need to make an 'Essentials' version. The regular warden is just fine.

 

[Ferghis]

Well they are doing Essentials Rogue, what is so no-essential about Warden ??

It's not one of the classic classes. They could still do it, but they've only done e-classes that existed (in some form) in first edition, I think.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

It's not one of the classic classes. They could still do it, but they've only done e-classes that existed (in some form) in first edition, I think.

you know, that makes me want an E-monk... maybe a Martial/Psionic that has stances, and basic attacks... hm

 

[RangerWickett]

For an Essentials Monk, I figure it'd be a base attack class with 12 stance options (very Zodiac-esque). You might get 2 stances at 1st level, and access to more at higher levels. Each stance would have a move action appropriate to it, a flurry of blows it could use as a free action on a hit, and some benefit that could be triggered on a per-encounter basis, akin to power strike (Ki Strike?).

Crane Stance.

Dragon Stance.

Eagle Stance.

Elephant Stance.

Leopard Stance.

Mantis Stance.

Monkey Stance.

Raven Stance.

Snake Stance. Move action lets you shift 2 squares and gain combat advantage against creatures adjacent to you at the end of the movement that you weren't adjacent to at the start. Flurry would let you deal extra damage and grab the primary target, or deal extra damage and shift 2 squares adjacent to a secondary target. Ki Strike would let you Blind or Weaken a target you hit.

Tiger Stance. Move action moves your speed +2

Turtle Stance. (Should really let you shoot hadouken.)

Wolf Stance.

Entering a stance could be a minor action as normal, or perhaps each stance's Move action would include a rider that when you use it, you automatically switch to that stance.

 

[Gryph]

[MENTION=63]RangerWickett[/MENTION], your E-monk would be kind of awesome. I think the stance switch should be a Minor rather than wrapped in with the move action.

I think you should do the full write up, pretty please?

 

[Tony Vargas]

The Warden was a 'grid filling' class, set up at the corner of Primal and Defender with no particular heroic fantasy archetype to back it up. The barbarian sub-class in Heroes of the Feywild will be at least partially suplanting it, behind half-defender, and Primal.

 

[braro]

The Warden was a 'grid filling' class, set up at the corner of Primal and Defender with no particular heroic fantasy archetype to back it up. The barbarian sub-class in Heroes of the Feywild will be at least partially suplanting it, behind half-defender, and Primal.

It seems to succeed, if you opt to play the defense aspects to the hilt. It fills that same "Naturey guy with sword, shield, and light armor" angle, for me.