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<blockquote data-quote="Lela" data-source="post: 212488" data-attributes="member: 1216">As for the player who has trouble keeping OC knowlage OC, I had that same problem on Saterday.&nbsp; I had to come up with an encounter on the fly and flipped through the MM, landing on Manticore.I described the situation and one of the players asked, &quot;What does it look like.&quot;&nbsp; I get a weird feeling but respond, &quot;Well, it has a long tail ending in huge spikes, looks like a flying leapord, and has spikes up and down it's spine.&quot;What does he say?&nbsp; &quot;That's a mantacore.&quot;&nbsp; When someone asks if he's sure he loudly exclaims, &quot;No, I'm right.&nbsp; I've read the MM front to back!&quot;This was especally annoying as the entire group had just been trying to guess what I'd come out with.&nbsp; Each looking at the book and trying to guess what letter I was on.&nbsp; This probally encouraged him.After I gave him a withering look and mentioned that his character didn't know any of that, he looked a little abashed.So, for next session, I've gone to the Creature Collection and pulled out a bunch of monsters I could use.&nbsp; I know he's never been there and it should go better.Another option is to make quick adjustments to monsters, as sudjested by Monte Cook.&nbsp; (His example) Change the Winter Wolf's breath weapon to pure spikes shooting out of it's mouth, up the # of HD by 1, and, last but not least, up the CR by one (also remove any cold subtype it might have--cant remember).&nbsp; It now looks just like a Dire Wolf (no frost hints of any kind) and will freak out players who think they know everything in the MM.&nbsp; All you do is write the changes on a sticky note and pop it on the page.You can do this with vurtually any monster, helping you create an entire MM within the existing one.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lela, post: 212488, member: 1216"] As for the player who has trouble keeping OC knowlage OC, I had that same problem on Saterday. I had to come up with an encounter on the fly and flipped through the MM, landing on Manticore. I described the situation and one of the players asked, "What does it look like." I get a weird feeling but respond, "Well, it has a long tail ending in huge spikes, looks like a flying leapord, and has spikes up and down it's spine." What does he say? "That's a mantacore." When someone asks if he's sure he loudly exclaims, "No, I'm right. I've read the MM front to back!" This was especally annoying as the entire group had just been trying to guess what I'd come out with. Each looking at the book and trying to guess what letter I was on. This probally encouraged him. After I gave him a withering look and mentioned that his character didn't know any of that, he looked a little abashed. So, for next session, I've gone to the Creature Collection and pulled out a bunch of monsters I could use. I know he's never been there and it should go better. Another option is to make quick adjustments to monsters, as sudjested by Monte Cook. (His example) Change the Winter Wolf's breath weapon to pure spikes shooting out of it's mouth, up the # of HD by 1, and, last but not least, up the CR by one (also remove any cold subtype it might have--cant remember). It now looks just like a Dire Wolf (no frost hints of any kind) and will freak out players who think they know everything in the MM. All you do is write the changes on a sticky note and pop it on the page. You can do this with vurtually any monster, helping you create an entire MM within the existing one. [/QUOTE]

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