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<blockquote data-quote="Sashi" data-source="post: 4270511" data-attributes="member: 61842">Think of the roleplaying expansions that comes from a party with a rogue completely untrained in thievery and a cleric who took skill training and manages all the party's traps by finesse rather than whacking them with Dispell Magic. 3E basically hamstrung anyone who wanted to go against their class skills, if a Wizard tried to up Bluff cross-class he just couldn't, a +10 bluff when DC's are set expecting +20 is functionally useless. You're not &quot;the shifty guy&quot; you're &quot;the guy who thinks he's shifty&quot;.It's right in line with the reasoning behind the Wizard no longer getting Wish at the same level the fighter gets +1 to attacks.Force of habit, definitely. I admit I was nonplussed by the lack of a table of &quot;this is what you get as you level&quot; for each class, but then since every class gets exactly the same thing, and the table is a full page, it would be a complete waste of space to reprint the table. My only beef is the location of the table. Why is it at the end of &quot;making characters&quot; rather than the start of &quot;classes&quot;?Falchion VS Greataxe:One is a +3 prof 2d4 High Crit two handed weaponThe other is +2 1d12 High crit two handedChoose the falchion when you want to hit more regularly for less damage.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sashi, post: 4270511, member: 61842"] Think of the roleplaying expansions that comes from a party with a rogue completely untrained in thievery and a cleric who took skill training and manages all the party's traps by finesse rather than whacking them with Dispell Magic. 3E basically hamstrung anyone who wanted to go against their class skills, if a Wizard tried to up Bluff cross-class he just [i]couldn't[/i], a +10 bluff when DC's are set expecting +20 is functionally useless. You're not "the shifty guy" you're "the guy who thinks he's shifty". It's right in line with the reasoning behind the Wizard no longer getting Wish at the same level the fighter gets +1 to attacks. Force of habit, definitely. I admit I was nonplussed by the lack of a table of "this is what you get as you level" for each class, but then since every class gets exactly the same thing, and the table is a full page, it would be a complete waste of space to reprint the table. My only beef is the location of the table. Why is it at the end of "making characters" rather than the start of "classes"? Falchion VS Greataxe: One is a +3 prof 2d4 High Crit two handed weapon The other is +2 1d12 High crit two handed Choose the falchion when you want to hit more regularly for less damage. [/QUOTE]

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