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<blockquote data-quote="Moggthegob" data-source="post: 4273180" data-attributes="member: 49515">Well to be fair, I am ordinarily the DM, but the next two months are my time off from DMing, just so I get a chance to play.The wizard played with his cantrips during cavern exploration,but once we were in battle, he didn't see the use in casting prestidigitation or ghost sound.Power Attack is still in the game ,but in a different form.I did mention that gnomes were in the Monster Manual but none of us could figure out how to convert the monster entry into a Race entry so we let it be.&nbsp;The DM did not,in fairness, get a great chance to read over all the books. He spent 2 hours with the adventure and leafed through the DMG.And I would say overall,yes, the concept of 'powers' did make it feel goofy, except in the cases of the paladin and warlock and to a lesser extent the wizard. Just an observation of your observation regarding character creation: Is it possible that this is based around the newness of the system yet. I remember feeling many of those same feelings when 3.5 was new or every time I saw a new feat or prestige class. Or later when I got into spellcasting,every time I would read through a new spell I would get that sort of feeling. Perhaps, perhaps no?&nbsp;Just an interesting parallel and I wanted to know if the feelings were similar or based around the new system fitting your fancy that well. Or possibly both</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Moggthegob, post: 4273180, member: 49515"] Well to be fair, I am ordinarily the DM, but the next two months are my time off from DMing, just so I get a chance to play. The wizard played with his cantrips during cavern exploration,but once we were in battle, he didn't see the use in casting prestidigitation or ghost sound. Power Attack is still in the game ,but in a different form. I did mention that gnomes were in the Monster Manual but none of us could figure out how to convert the monster entry into a Race entry so we let it be. The DM did not,in fairness, get a great chance to read over all the books. He spent 2 hours with the adventure and leafed through the DMG. And I would say overall,yes, the concept of 'powers' did make it feel goofy, except in the cases of the paladin and warlock and to a lesser extent the wizard. Just an observation of your observation regarding character creation: Is it possible that this is based around the newness of the system yet. I remember feeling many of those same feelings when 3.5 was new or every time I saw a new feat or prestige class. Or later when I got into spellcasting,every time I would read through a new spell I would get that sort of feeling. Perhaps, perhaps no? Just an interesting parallel and I wanted to know if the feelings were similar or based around the new system fitting your fancy that well. Or possibly both [/QUOTE]

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