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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8209530" data-attributes="member: 18">It's not really contentious at all unless you're talking to certain white Americans specifically (and few people who consider themselves "pureblooded" and the like in South America, but let's not go there, that's all built on bizarre lies and being unraveled by DNA tests right now). And I'm going to go ahead and say I believe it's simple racism that makes even faintly contentious for that group, because I've never seen a rational argument that didn't eventually get to "Well they bringing the word of Christ to particularly ghastly heathens!" (something they actually tried to avoid doing, note) as a last-ditch defense. Straightforward racism - just placing no value at all on the lives of the people of the Caribbean and South and Central America. They weren't mere "pirates", they were sadistic rapists, slavers, torturers, murderers and pillagers of the darkest and most evil kind - they made most 1700s pirates look like very honorable and upstanding fellows indeed! Again, I refer you to the journal of the guy with Columbus, who noted very clearly that by his standards, by 1400/1500s standards, not modern standards, Columbus was a deviant psychopath monster. These were VERY bad people by 1400/1500s standards.That they eventually crashed into the Aztecs, who were also ruled/controlled by completely insane mass murderers is just... CE vs LE.. or something. I mean for a while people treated the Aztecs as "contentious" until we found out oh yeah really did human-sacrifice sometimes hundreds or thousands of people at a time.</blockquote>

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