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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 8211180">we just fundamentally disagree which is fine. But that also might have to do with expectations. I found ROT was hugely atmospheric, classic horror with a good bit of camp (I was a fan of old horror movies so for me something that felt like it could be read in the voice of Vincent price or used to run a bride of Frankenstein adventure—was the kind of horror I wanted. On stuff like Drakov, I found the domain creepy and was a good place for humans as the horror (which is why I think his treatment of Demi humans was interesting). But I also loved the monster outs horrors of places like Barovia, Forlorm and Kartakass. For me products like guide to created and guide to ghosts sealed it: I had all the tools I needed for really great horror adventures in the style I wanted.I can say is it often comes down to execution. And many of the individual supplements were varied in quality but the black box, the red, domains of dread and the van Richten books were solid (not entice to mention sone of the standout modules like FOG and CF). Sone domains also certainly didn’t land with me: but I found most of the original ones I did eventually find angles with (and finding the angles was important because of the barebones style of Rot. Some of the modules didn’t land as well, but I do think it was by far much more effective horror than the stuff I have seen under 3E WOTC (CoS was certainly a step up but just didn’t register with me and I don’t quite like the combat heavy approach of 3-4th: played lots of 3rd, and Ravenloft never felt the same under that system; switched back to 2E and it felt the same). With 5E I don’t think it is that old Ravenloft fails or succeeds and 5th does or doesn’t. They seem to be going for different things. Can’t comment as much on 5E mechanically as I have only played it a few times. But just reading through CoS it is much closer to the spirit of Ravenloft than say Expedition to Castle Ravenloft in 3rd. But I can just tell from the style of horror in CoS it isn’t the style I am looking for in Ravenloft (and not saying it isn’t successful horror, I just really like the classic, yet campy, style of old schooo Ravenloft)</blockquote>

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