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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8211822" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>This is a good point & the thing I worry about most. Ravenloft has never been shy about making <em>massive</em> changes to the system it's written for to support the needs of horror, but a ravenloft book needs to include those changes in print & 5e needs them even more than some of the past editions. We don't really have much other than anime to compare a lot of d&d to so using popular anime that mostly aired in recent years during prime time US timeslots (and streams most everywhere now) 5e is tuned more towards the dragonball/naruto end of the scale, but ravenloft needs to exist somewhere closer to the goblin slayer*/death note/tokyo ghoul/parasyte/the promised neverland/japan sinks/etc ends of the scale & there are a lot of mechanics still not seen in UA that need to be revisited in a ravenloft book for that to happen. Hopefully some of the upcoming teaser videos can talk about that sort of stuff.</p><p></p><p>*If the character called goblin slayer by everyone were in ravenloft, the whole series would take place in his domain prison</p><p></p><p></p><p>having a fear of "it's different than it used to be" is perfectly reasonable & even has reasons to support it. 4e eberron was a travesty that avoided filling in vaguely hinted parts of he setting to cram in supporting elements for printing a planescape/Mystarara/FR metaplot in setting books for a setting violently incompatible with many of the baseline assumptions that metaplot needed causing a setting that was in conflict with itself in its own setting books. 5e eberron recognized how awful & misguided that attempt was & between wayfinders/morgraves/rising/EE managed to do a generally great eberron release, but 3 of those aren't technically made by wotc & that's important. Ravenloft in 5e has a heavily faerunized CoS making it the third edition rehashing CoS. People don't point to those ancient ravenloft books from 2e & 3e because of some 3.5 edition onward fork in other directions, they point to them because so many years have been spent with wotc focusing entirely on CoS to the point where they tried to se it in faerun expecting nobody to care. With that said, I think the islands could work better at capturing the essence of ravenloft but can only hope that the mechanics needed to support the rest of what ravenloft needs & we haven't really even seen UA for most of that. What little info we have doesn't yet hint that this is going to be a dropped ball, but there's not much saying otherwise for certain to give what seems to be a skeptic already sporting burns like [USER=85555]@Bedrockgames[/USER] hooks for hanging optimism on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8211822, member: 93670"] This is a good point & the thing I worry about most. Ravenloft has never been shy about making [I]massive[/I] changes to the system it's written for to support the needs of horror, but a ravenloft book needs to include those changes in print & 5e needs them even more than some of the past editions. We don't really have much other than anime to compare a lot of d&d to so using popular anime that mostly aired in recent years during prime time US timeslots (and streams most everywhere now) 5e is tuned more towards the dragonball/naruto end of the scale, but ravenloft needs to exist somewhere closer to the goblin slayer*/death note/tokyo ghoul/parasyte/the promised neverland/japan sinks/etc ends of the scale & there are a lot of mechanics still not seen in UA that need to be revisited in a ravenloft book for that to happen. Hopefully some of the upcoming teaser videos can talk about that sort of stuff. *If the character called goblin slayer by everyone were in ravenloft, the whole series would take place in his domain prison having a fear of "it's different than it used to be" is perfectly reasonable & even has reasons to support it. 4e eberron was a travesty that avoided filling in vaguely hinted parts of he setting to cram in supporting elements for printing a planescape/Mystarara/FR metaplot in setting books for a setting violently incompatible with many of the baseline assumptions that metaplot needed causing a setting that was in conflict with itself in its own setting books. 5e eberron recognized how awful & misguided that attempt was & between wayfinders/morgraves/rising/EE managed to do a generally great eberron release, but 3 of those aren't technically made by wotc & that's important. Ravenloft in 5e has a heavily faerunized CoS making it the third edition rehashing CoS. People don't point to those ancient ravenloft books from 2e & 3e because of some 3.5 edition onward fork in other directions, they point to them because so many years have been spent with wotc focusing entirely on CoS to the point where they tried to se it in faerun expecting nobody to care. With that said, I think the islands could work better at capturing the essence of ravenloft but can only hope that the mechanics needed to support the rest of what ravenloft needs & we haven't really even seen UA for most of that. What little info we have doesn't yet hint that this is going to be a dropped ball, but there's not much saying otherwise for certain to give what seems to be a skeptic already sporting burns like [USER=85555]@Bedrockgames[/USER] hooks for hanging optimism on. [/QUOTE]
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