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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8248446" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>You got a source for this? I ask because I can't see much difference between the 1E and 2E adventures I own on this, and it seems like the sort of thing players would believe into existence even if it didn't exist. But if you've got TSR people saying it, that's fascinating.</p><p></p><p>The first seven supplements sounds like a big number until you remember 2E came out in 1989, so you had what, two years w/o 2E versions of that material, which if you cared about, you likely had the semi-compatible 1E versions of anyway.</p><p></p><p>The first setting for 2E was Taladas (in 1989), which an extremely shades-of-grey setting, which allowed people to play Minotaurs, Ogres, Goblins, and Lizardmen (they were encouraged to, even), had evil, vaguely rape-y high elf barbarian raiders (including not one, but two pictures of women being abducted), an area that basically amounted to "Elf South Africa" replete with apartheid enforced by the elves on the humans and half-elves of the region, dragons with non-fixed alignments, and so on. As an aside, it's totally amazing setting, and I'm only highlighting the scary stuff but this idea that that was "comics code" seems er... far-fetched. That's literally the first setting.</p><p></p><p>FRA comes out soon thereafter, and includes full rules and instructions for being priests of various death/evil gods which are certainly darker than any assassin (who I think mostly got cut for being rubbish - Half-Orcs did probably get cut for mass-market clean-up, I don't think the "they're all the children of rape" vibe was regarded as cool).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah that's the real impact and that sucks for the people who had to deal with that.</p><p></p><p>Ironically my very un-religious and British parents did take away my first RPG book from me - The Riddling Reaver - but on the grounds that it appeared to be too scary for me, given I was what, 8 or something, and I also got banned from reading 2000AD when my mum read an issue lol (though she did like the art she said - she's an illustrator). However these bans were revoked less than a year later, and less than two years after that I was running Taladas...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8248446, member: 18"] You got a source for this? I ask because I can't see much difference between the 1E and 2E adventures I own on this, and it seems like the sort of thing players would believe into existence even if it didn't exist. But if you've got TSR people saying it, that's fascinating. The first seven supplements sounds like a big number until you remember 2E came out in 1989, so you had what, two years w/o 2E versions of that material, which if you cared about, you likely had the semi-compatible 1E versions of anyway. The first setting for 2E was Taladas (in 1989), which an extremely shades-of-grey setting, which allowed people to play Minotaurs, Ogres, Goblins, and Lizardmen (they were encouraged to, even), had evil, vaguely rape-y high elf barbarian raiders (including not one, but two pictures of women being abducted), an area that basically amounted to "Elf South Africa" replete with apartheid enforced by the elves on the humans and half-elves of the region, dragons with non-fixed alignments, and so on. As an aside, it's totally amazing setting, and I'm only highlighting the scary stuff but this idea that that was "comics code" seems er... far-fetched. That's literally the first setting. FRA comes out soon thereafter, and includes full rules and instructions for being priests of various death/evil gods which are certainly darker than any assassin (who I think mostly got cut for being rubbish - Half-Orcs did probably get cut for mass-market clean-up, I don't think the "they're all the children of rape" vibe was regarded as cool). Yeah that's the real impact and that sucks for the people who had to deal with that. Ironically my very un-religious and British parents did take away my first RPG book from me - The Riddling Reaver - but on the grounds that it appeared to be too scary for me, given I was what, 8 or something, and I also got banned from reading 2000AD when my mum read an issue lol (though she did like the art she said - she's an illustrator). However these bans were revoked less than a year later, and less than two years after that I was running Taladas... [/QUOTE]
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