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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8262971" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>I think that's a projection on your part. I'm not seeing any total dismissal, just seeing a trend - and I see that trend and supported it with actual argumentation as to why it's happening.</p><p></p><p>I think you yourself are rather overlooking that a lot of horror through the years hasn't been very scary.</p><p></p><p>About this sort of thing? Pretty much never. This is subjective and cultural. Claiming "music was better in my day", which is effectively the approach you're replicating is usually laughably wrong for example.</p><p></p><p>But what you're still not quite getting is that for modern audiences modern horror is, typically, more scary in a very easy to demonstrate and personal way - it scares them more. You can't really argue with that.</p><p></p><p>As for in 20 years, who knows. I think a bunch of stuff will stand out and people will absolutely see the '00s as a horror golden age (even though I'm not a fan of a lot of that stuff), because there was tons of it, it was novel, and it was culturally influential. The '10s? Harder to say. I don't think so, because whilst there have been some important horror movies, horror movies as a genre have been less culturally important and influential (TV horror has been coming up though - much of it quite gothic and camp in a Ravenloft-y way, but also usually extremely sexual and often violent in a way that would make Strahd cover his innocent eyes with his cape and run away hissing! Ryan Murphy being responsible for a large fraction of it).</p><p></p><p>As an aside, I'd actually say the horror movies that tend to survive are not the scariest ones (which are often not even the best ones), but rather the ones which are scary and tell a good story. Some of them are actually towards the lower end of the scary scale, esp. '80s ones. It's not always true though. Don't Look Now is still profoundly creepy though perhaps not very scary, for example.</p><p></p><p>I dunno what this is referring to? Is this some kind of weird-ass zing on The VVitch, Midsommar, Hereditary, The Babadook and so on? Because the idea that they're "for elite audiences" is a weird way of saying "for people younger than me" lol. These are mainstream movies. Or are you taking aim at something I'm missing?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8262971, member: 18"] I think that's a projection on your part. I'm not seeing any total dismissal, just seeing a trend - and I see that trend and supported it with actual argumentation as to why it's happening. I think you yourself are rather overlooking that a lot of horror through the years hasn't been very scary. About this sort of thing? Pretty much never. This is subjective and cultural. Claiming "music was better in my day", which is effectively the approach you're replicating is usually laughably wrong for example. But what you're still not quite getting is that for modern audiences modern horror is, typically, more scary in a very easy to demonstrate and personal way - it scares them more. You can't really argue with that. As for in 20 years, who knows. I think a bunch of stuff will stand out and people will absolutely see the '00s as a horror golden age (even though I'm not a fan of a lot of that stuff), because there was tons of it, it was novel, and it was culturally influential. The '10s? Harder to say. I don't think so, because whilst there have been some important horror movies, horror movies as a genre have been less culturally important and influential (TV horror has been coming up though - much of it quite gothic and camp in a Ravenloft-y way, but also usually extremely sexual and often violent in a way that would make Strahd cover his innocent eyes with his cape and run away hissing! Ryan Murphy being responsible for a large fraction of it). As an aside, I'd actually say the horror movies that tend to survive are not the scariest ones (which are often not even the best ones), but rather the ones which are scary and tell a good story. Some of them are actually towards the lower end of the scary scale, esp. '80s ones. It's not always true though. Don't Look Now is still profoundly creepy though perhaps not very scary, for example. I dunno what this is referring to? Is this some kind of weird-ass zing on The VVitch, Midsommar, Hereditary, The Babadook and so on? Because the idea that they're "for elite audiences" is a weird way of saying "for people younger than me" lol. These are mainstream movies. Or are you taking aim at something I'm missing? [/QUOTE]
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