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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 8269512">Memes like that oversimplify. Most people were onboard with The Force Awakens. The Last Jedi was the movie that irritated a lot of fans. I think the reason wasn't diversity (Finn was introduced in the first film). It was the ham-fisted way the politics drove everything, and they way the movie was written to upturn the tropes that came before (while also seeming to cast them in a negative light and pass judgement on them). For the record I liked Finn and I loved Rose Tico. I also though an interracial relationship between those two characters would have been great (I am in an interracial marriage myself and I am saddened to see interracial couples becoming more frowned upon once again). And it is equally sad that the reason they didn't have them be a couple was because, at least in my view, they felt the global market wasn't open to a black and asian character being in love (that is at least my reading, because they clearly laid groundwork for that relationship with the kiss at the end of last jedi). So for me, this isn't about diversity being bad. It is about leading with political correctness and leading with wokeness. It is also about not using these as our benchmarks of quality writing. What I find off-putting isn't the diversity, it is the 'hey look at how woke we are'. It is when  it slides into pandering and  when it is done in a way that the diverse characters aren't interesting because they have to be so clean or so wholesome. You see this especially with villains, which is why I think it will be a signifiant problem for Ravenloft.</blockquote>

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