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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 8273684" data-attributes="member: 85555"><p>No, what I am saying is we are talking about changes to the line. And I said the changes don't seem to be made for the old fans. And a bunch of posters who have largely been critical of foundational elements of the old book (and classic/gothic horror was a foundational element) are saying no because they are also old fans. I am sure there are old fans who like the changes. I just am intrigued that so many people who for so long have been critical of the old content, don't see how many of the changes, much fo the tone, seems insulting or dismissive to those of us who loved the setting when it came out. Like I said, I can see not liking powers checks, not liking a domain here or there, but the setting was explicitly about gothic and classic horror. If you didn't like that, it wasn't&nbsp; setting designed for you. And acting like the setting having a gothic/classic focus, was someone due to meanness or prejudice against other forms of horror on the part of the original designers, like they were intentionally denying players who desperately wanted body horror, slasher, and torture porn, what they ought to have had. It is just a weird framing of the thing. The black box was very explicit about the aims of the setting, and even if it veered away here or there, through the 90s that was the guiding concept. Ravenloft was never a multi-genre horror setting</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 8273684, member: 85555"] No, what I am saying is we are talking about changes to the line. And I said the changes don't seem to be made for the old fans. And a bunch of posters who have largely been critical of foundational elements of the old book (and classic/gothic horror was a foundational element) are saying no because they are also old fans. I am sure there are old fans who like the changes. I just am intrigued that so many people who for so long have been critical of the old content, don't see how many of the changes, much fo the tone, seems insulting or dismissive to those of us who loved the setting when it came out. Like I said, I can see not liking powers checks, not liking a domain here or there, but the setting was explicitly about gothic and classic horror. If you didn't like that, it wasn't setting designed for you. And acting like the setting having a gothic/classic focus, was someone due to meanness or prejudice against other forms of horror on the part of the original designers, like they were intentionally denying players who desperately wanted body horror, slasher, and torture porn, what they ought to have had. It is just a weird framing of the thing. The black box was very explicit about the aims of the setting, and even if it veered away here or there, through the 90s that was the guiding concept. Ravenloft was never a multi-genre horror setting [/QUOTE]

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