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<blockquote data-quote="Plaguescarred" data-source="post: 9517972" data-attributes="member: 6701422">While i agree on the effect of Exception-Based design produce on game play experience, i have to say this isn't new to 5E24. Nor is Rule 0 a recent phylosophy. It's more that as D&amp;D evolved, these concepts were more verbalized or codified.For as long as D&amp;D existed, DM were empowered to make up any rule as needed and even overturn existing rules.The incentive for optimization in my experience started during AD&amp;D 2nd Edition with things like Kits in Complete Class Handbooks, Weapon/non-weapon proficiencies, Skills, Player's Options books, Tome of Magic, Specialty Priest from Faith &amp; Avatars or Powers &amp; Pantheons, or even in before with AD&amp;D Rule Cyclopedia Weapon Mastery rules etc.. that&nbsp; all introduced specific rules that would trump general rules.And the more rules just get codified in a game, the more rule lawyering will be frequent as players can get to know/use more of them a where light or loose ruleset usually see less of it, relying more on DM fiat or Mother May I approach.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Plaguescarred, post: 9517972, member: 6701422"] While i agree on the effect of Exception-Based design produce on game play experience, i have to say this isn't new to 5E24. Nor is Rule 0 a recent phylosophy. It's more that as D&D evolved, these concepts were more verbalized or codified. For as long as D&D existed, DM were empowered to make up any rule as needed and even overturn existing rules. The incentive for optimization in my experience started during AD&D 2nd Edition with things like Kits in [I]Complete Class Handbooks[/I], Weapon/non-weapon proficiencies, Skills, [I]Player's Options[/I] books, [I]Tome of Magic[/I], Specialty Priest from [I]Faith & Avatars[/I] or [I]Powers & Pantheons[/I], or even in before with AD&D [I]Rule Cyclopedia[/I] Weapon Mastery rules etc.. that all introduced specific rules that would trump general rules. And the more rules just get codified in a game, the more rule lawyering will be frequent as players can get to know/use more of them a where light or loose ruleset usually see less of it, relying more on DM fiat or Mother May I approach. [/QUOTE]

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