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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 4240484" data-attributes="member: 5889">Remember, in 4e we don't have to be a slave to the numbers. We can just slap on an elite sticker onto the creature, and .... its done. Now its an elite, only max 2 of them for a regular combat. That said, I agree with people that the drake just seems way too low a level for what it does, ESPECIALLY if you add in more swarms (and we are going to add in more swarms, that's makes the most sense in many encounters).I mean, since swarms can move into people's squares, I can easily get 5 swarms adjacent to one party member. Now with the PC having to make 5 fort saves vs prone, he's more than likely going to drop prone. So the swarms attack. And then on the pcs turn they attack again.Let's assume they hit 50% of the time (which considering the PC is prone and the the AC's I've seen of 1st level party, I think that's completely reasonable). So we have 2d10+4 x 5 attacks (avg: 75). That's got high level brute monsters blushing!!</blockquote>