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<blockquote data-quote="Korgoth" data-source="post: 4243796" data-attributes="member: 49613"><p>I don't even think it's a fixable 'problem'. There will always be some form of rock-paper-scissors interplay. In wargaming, for instance, a lot of games are point-based (both sides get X amount of points, which are supposedly balanced). But even if they are balanced relative to possible choices from the lists, not every force will be balanced against every other. The guy who shows up with a 1500 Tigerkompanie is going to mulch a guy who shows up with 1500 points of Cromwells. Why? Because they're both more or less one-trick ponies, except one guy's pony is a Shire horse. Likewise, a list that does 2 things well and everything else mediocre is more balanced but can still run into a list that stands up to those two things well enough to exploit the third, and so on. That doesn't mean that they're not balanced. It just means that every point-balanced force does not have a 50/50 shot against every other point-balanced force. The balance was in the options available, not in what you ultimately decided to field.</p><p></p><p>It's inevitably going to be the same in D&D. The Needlefang Drake Swarm, no matter how one interprets the exact function of the aura, is extremely tough, especially against a party heavy on martial strikers (since their damage is halved versus the swarm). A party of 5 rangers or rogues would be eaten alive! But a party with a couple of Dwarven paladins and 3 blast-happy wizards will fare much better, I would expect. But in other situations, they won't work as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Korgoth, post: 4243796, member: 49613"] I don't even think it's a fixable 'problem'. There will always be some form of rock-paper-scissors interplay. In wargaming, for instance, a lot of games are point-based (both sides get X amount of points, which are supposedly balanced). But even if they are balanced relative to possible choices from the lists, not every force will be balanced against every other. The guy who shows up with a 1500 Tigerkompanie is going to mulch a guy who shows up with 1500 points of Cromwells. Why? Because they're both more or less one-trick ponies, except one guy's pony is a Shire horse. Likewise, a list that does 2 things well and everything else mediocre is more balanced but can still run into a list that stands up to those two things well enough to exploit the third, and so on. That doesn't mean that they're not balanced. It just means that every point-balanced force does not have a 50/50 shot against every other point-balanced force. The balance was in the options available, not in what you ultimately decided to field. It's inevitably going to be the same in D&D. The Needlefang Drake Swarm, no matter how one interprets the exact function of the aura, is extremely tough, especially against a party heavy on martial strikers (since their damage is halved versus the swarm). A party of 5 rangers or rogues would be eaten alive! But a party with a couple of Dwarven paladins and 3 blast-happy wizards will fare much better, I would expect. But in other situations, they won't work as well. [/QUOTE]
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