Excerpt: The Warlord

[I'm A Banana]

I agree, a second controller should be in the PHB, especially given that the warlord class explicitly reveals HP can be increased through the warlord's inspiration powers. Thus, it stands to reason that a martial controller might demoralize the enemy and reduce their HP.

Personally, I was thinking that a 'nature priest' style druid, without much combat-based wild shape, but with the ability to summon swarms, cause plants and the ground to move about, and control localized weather effects (rain, snow, temperature) would have fit a Divine Controller role quite nicely. I wouldn't mind it in the slightest if it replaced the Ranger (because it's not that iconic, and it's another martial striker).

 

[LostInTheMists]

IF "Leading the Attack" has been used AND You are currently within 5 squares of the Warlord.
THEN Gain a +X power bonus on attack rolls.
ELSE No bonus.

-TRRW

5 Print "Thanks, theredrobedwizard!"
10 Goto 5
20 End

Seriously, that cleared it up nicely for me, but I'm a computer guy. I understood that better than English.

 

[Chimera]

All these silly arguments over the name "warlord".

Here I'm more interested in knowing if a female warlord is called a warlady.

 

[Xyl]

Except the first thing my brain did was flip that around to read "Warhamster".

C'mon. It's not just me, is it?

You forgot to take your medication again, didn't you.

 

[JesterOC]

5 Print "Thanks, theredrobedwizard!"
10 Goto 5
20 End
QUOTE]

Line 20 never gets called. Remove it to save memory

Fond Memories of Basic float into my head.....
Man I have not seen line numbers since High School (not including line numbers that are generated by text editors does not count. I remember very vividly the first time someone told me that a language that did not use line numbers, I think my quote was "Then how will it know what to do next?" Good times....

 

[Surgoshan]

All these silly arguments over the name "warlord".

Here I'm more interested in knowing if a female warlord is called a warlady.

Wardame. Warb****? Warchick. Warchica.

 

[shadowguidex]

Call yourself whatever you want if you play a Warlord?

In my games, people never introduce their characters while RPing as "Bill the Fighter", it's always "William the Defender", or "Kurgen the Arcanist" instead of "Kurgen the Wizard".

If you wanna call yourself a Warlord, do it, if not use marshal, commander, captain, strategist, tactician, rallyer, noble, lieutenant, or whatever other title you decide to use for yourself, or just don't use a title.

 

[ryryguy]

"Warlord" as a name doesn't bother me too much, and "Marshal" is not perhaps much of an improvement.

But as a former history student, when I hear "warlord" I interpret it as Carnivorous Bean suggests: a military strong man who exercises civil authority. Not just a guy leading some other soldiers - a guy who runs the whole place by force of arms. Where "rule of law" and "force of arms" are one and the same. Furthermore, a guy running a place by force of arms where there used to be some other authority that has collapsed or been displaced.

There are other definitions available, I'm sure... YMMV. But that's what it means to me as a social science "term of art."

 

[Voss]

"Warlord" as a name doesn't bother me too much, and "Marshal" is not perhaps much of an improvement.

But as a former history student, when I hear "warlord" I interpret it as Carnivorous Bean suggests: a military strong man who exercises civil authority. Not just a guy leading some other soldiers - a guy who runs the whole place by force of arms. Where "rule of law" and "force of arms" are one and the same. Furthermore, a guy running a place by force of arms where there used to be some other authority that has collapsed or been displaced.

There are other definitions available, I'm sure... YMMV. But that's what it means to me as a social science "term of art."

Odd. As a current history student, I can separate it from the modern, anachronistic meaning that doesn't have any relevance to the class, and use the classic, mythological and fantasy literature -inspired meaning without any problems.

But I was always more interested in medieval and classical history anyway.

Marshal, on the other hand, is almost purely industrial age, maybe late renaissance for some of the more pedestrian 'civic authority' positions. I can't relate that to a fantasy character at all.

On a lighter note, leave 'social science' to the sociologists. History deserves better than to fed through the blender of science and chopped into meaningless facts with no interesting or relevant content.

 

[JohnSnow]

Personally, I was thinking that a 'nature priest' style druid, without much combat-based wild shape, but with the ability to summon swarms, cause plants and the ground to move about, and control localized weather effects (rain, snow, temperature) would have fit a Divine Controller role quite nicely. I wouldn't mind it in the slightest if it replaced the Ranger (because it's not that iconic, and it's another martial striker).

Not that iconic? Not that ICONIC?! Not THAT ICONIC?!?!?

It's the ranger for gods sakes!! Archer. Woodsman. Tracker. Robin Hood. Hereward. Orion. Aragorn and Legolas.

It would be better to totally dump the crappy "only in D&D!" cleric before I'll let you pry my ranger from my cold dead hands!

WotC has never said they were placing options for every role. They said they were fixing the problem of requiring a cleric. And if you don't think clerics are "required," play Midnight without a character with the "healer" path, and then talk to me about how "unnecessary" clerics are in 3e. Whatever you think, without massive houseruling, a nice DM, or lots of magical equipment, a party without a cleric in 3e is just plain screwed.

In 4e, a party without any particular class will face different challenges, not insurmountable ones.

To my mind, it would have been a good fix to merge the wizard with the cleric, so that the "not it!" class (cleric) and the "I call shotgun!" class (wizard) are the same character. That would probably balance fine and, combined with the changes in healing, would hardly be overpowered.

*sigh* Maybe in 5e.

Or maybe, just maybe, clerics will annoy me less now.

And...can we stop talking about the Warlord's name? It's done. The class is called Warlord. Deal with it.