Excerpt: Weapons (MERGE)

[jdpacheco]

Yes, I meant a sabre. Sable is the latin form, and I thought it was universal. Didn't think of "Sabre/ertooth".
That weapon is a sabre. Look at the curved blade and the one-sided edge and the absence of that cross thingy to protect the hand from attacks (called 'Gavilanes', in Spanish).
The rogue at the page 168, called Kerwyn, is holding a rapier.
If you don't like it being considered a sabre, you can call it a Espada Ropera, a Spanish version of the rapier, which was a cross between a rapier and a normal sword.

Perhaps we're looking at different images?

I'm looking at that picture, second weapon from the left (immediately to the right of what people are supposing is a spiked chain, but could also be some sort of strange flail). The weapon I'm looking at features no curve, and is long and slender. It closely resembles the image you provided for a rapier.

Ironically, I have a sword hanging in my living room which is very much a sabre, but players insist on calling a rapier... Despite it's wider, curved blade, and the fact that it is definitely a slashing, not stabbing, weapon (though it's a show piece, so no edge).

 

[Kordeth]

Perhaps we're looking at different images?

Yes you are.

The rapier picture from 3.5 PHB was not a rapier, but a sabre.
(Random clarification).

Edited the quote to fix the spelling confusion.

 

[jdpacheco]

Yes you are.

*ahem* Yes, well... Um... Step one, apparently, is to take reading lessons....

Color me sheepish...

Yeah, I'd noticed that in the PHB before... Honestly, I was never all that impressed with the weapon images in the 3.5 PHB... And the mistakes only adds to the joy...

Sorry about that...

 

[tintagel]

Jey, Sir Brennan!

Nice to see you using Tiddlywiki!

I love that "app"? dunno what to call it really. Not a program... not a site... heh.

 

[Ondo]

Versatile: I'd rather see this bonus as "+ 1/2 your Strength modifier" instead of a flat "+1," but it's not a deal-breaker for me.

I'm glad to see that even someone of average strength can now do more damage by using two hands.

 

[Shroomy]

I'm glad to see that even someone of average strength can now do more damage by using two hands.

I agree. Besides, strong characters already get the bonus to their melee damage from Strength.

 

[CleverNickName]

I'm having a hard time seeing the problem.

Or is the problem with a small character using a non-small weapon? Perhaps they just lose the proficiency bonus?

Yes, that was the problem I was referring to. Sure, a "small shortsword" is a dagger, but what is a "small" halberd? or do halflings even get to choose such a weapon? Is it a battle-axe instead? If so, do they still get reach with it, or are reach weapons impossible for halflings?

There is probably a blurb or table or something in the PHB somewhere, for adding the "small" descriptor to any weapon, armor, or shield...WotC just didn't include it in this release. I'm hoping so, anyway. We love hobbits at our table.

 

[CleverNickName]

I'm glad to see that even someone of average strength can now do more damage by using two hands.

Agreed. The more I think about the +1 thing, the more I like it. I just thought a "Versatile" weapon would be a little more, um, versatile.

 

[Sojorn]

We love hobbits at our table.

It's the choice of sauce that makes the dish.

Wait, what do you mean "as characters"?

 

[CleverNickName]

A sabre:

Yarr...'board my ship that be called a cutlass, ya landlubber!

EDIT: Okay, not really...a "cutlass" would have a heavier blade and a fuller basket over the hilt. I was just looking for an excuse to talk like a pirate.