Excerpts: Angels

[Fallen Seraph]

Hmm... This is different for Angels:

During the great war between the gods and the primordials, angels offered themselves as warriors to the gods that best encompassed their callings, and today they continue to act as mercenary forces for anyone willing to meet their price—be it wealth, or power, or a cause worthy of their attention.

I wonder if Asmodeus was a general of a mercenary Angel army that went against the orders of their client.

I like the mercenary bent, others probably won't. But it makes sense there would be some loyalty but also the chance for rebellion and such and so aren't mindless automatons as some thought.

 

[FireLance]

One interesting observation: The base Angel of Valor is a Level 8 Soldier, but you also have angel of valor legionnaires which are Level 21 minions, similar to the legion devil legionnaires (also Level 21 minions) mentioned in the devil excerpt and the pit fiend article. I wonder of "legionnaires" is something like a minion template?

 

[Pistonrager]

now we can fight angels! but more importantly... only 2 days till we learn the basics of multiclassing!

 

[MaelStorm]

Although the DDM Angel of Vengeance bears remarkably little similarity to the one in the excerpt... I wonder if this is true of all the DDM stats we've been looking at to get some idea of their MM counterparts?

My 2 cents is that the Desert of Desolation was released at the end of last year, I think there is a strong possibility that this angel got reworked a bit afterward.

 

[GoodKingJayIII]

nm, someone already asked.

 

[hong]

Looks like they reconcepted angels at some point between Worlds & Monsters and the finished product:

No halos here—these are beings created by the gods for a purpose, rather than anthropomorphic images of comfort and purity.

They most often serve the gods, so some believe that the gods created them. In reality, angels are powerful astral beings who appeared during the first moments of the creation of the Astral Sea.

 

[DandD]

Hmm... This is different for Angels:

I wonder if Asmodeus was a general of a mercenary Angel army that went against the orders of their client.

I like the mercenary bent, others probably won't. But it makes sense there would be some loyalty but also the chance for rebellion and such and so aren't mindless automatons as some thought.

Yeah, that's a new thing. Reading Worlds & Monsters, I thought Angels would become robots with wings, personality-wise. Now, they're timelessly old, their origin is unexplained (for the implied setting, of course. Your angels might still be direct creations of your gods themselves) and mysterious, and they might even have their own agenda that might very well differ from a god.

Of course, that puts to wonder how powerful a god is, rules-wise. Can they create Angels? Or are all Angels now astral forms gaining sentience through mysterious means?

We shall see...

 

[Cadfan]

The longsword/dagger attack is probably our first preview of two weapon fighting.

 

[Fallen Seraph]

This is actually nice too, since in one of my settings Angels are separate and unique entities who came into being mysteriously and don't serve the gods that are left alive, unless they wish too.

Its like they read my mind, but took out the sci-fi elements I have for them

 

[Pistonrager]

I'm thinking they either meant that it would use it's double attack, and spend an action point to do it again, or... it wouldn't spend an action point to just do it.