Failed promises

[The_Universe]

Testify!

Right, well, that presumes people bothered to even look at it insteading of saying, "Oh, that's 3.0, I'm not interested." Similarly, many people missed the fact that Testament was a great resource for historical gaming because they didn't give it a closer look

Hey - I bought 2 copies. I hope that helped, Chris! I did my part!

 

[Mr. Patient]

Chicks dig a large review count.

With my too-hot Jonathan Levenson avatar, I'm already fighting them off with a stick. I'll test your theory, though.

 

[Pants]

Got a couple more to add to my list:

Book of Fiends: When I initially bought this, I was fairly impressed, but every time I go back and reference it for something, I get bored and put it away. The base classes don't really excite me (the Thaumaturge is boring, the Unholy Warrior relies too much on the flawed Paladin design to be anything more than a minor improvement) and many of the critters (aside from a few) just don't excite me. The best section in the book is the Demon Lord section.

Sword and Fist and Song and Silence: Horrible books that never saw any use.

3e Psionics Handbook: I remember reading through the book thinking 'I should be excited about this... but I'm not, all these powers seem really, really sucky...' The XPH is so much better...

 

[Benben]

Serpent Kingdoms: This book had great word of mouth and I had loved all of the other location books for FR. I also love the idea of degenerate serpent people. This books should have been full of evocative flavour, but instead was full of terrible, weak mechanics. Blah!

Epic Level Handbook: The only thing of value in this book was the paragon template, and that's only useful for scaring the crap out of players.

 

[ColonelHardisson]

I'll also throw out Decipher's Lord of the Rings. Damn that is a pretty book and looks great on my shelf, but that's about it. Did I mention it looks pretty?

Ran a campaign using this game, and it went really well. It's a pretty good game, but was so similar to d20 that had it been released as a d20/OGL game, it might've gotten as much love as, say, Mongoose's Babylon 5 or Conan games. There is a lot in it that can port over to d20 very easily. Same goes for the various sourcebooks for it.

 

[Erik Mona]

That said, SSS got a bad deal when it came to this license, since there were things they were simply not allowed to write about. The decision to update the setting was a good one, since frankly, nostalgia for 80s nuclear anxiety is hardly something to base a 21st century property on if you want it to sell and are constrained from emulating the inspirations in full.

And yet Omega World, which celebrated Gamma World's quirkiness and reveled in the goofiness of the original game, was the most popular Polyhedron Mini-Game out of about 15.

Go figure.

--Erik Mona

 

[Mokona]

I give a half-vote of disappointment to every book I've ever bought that didn't have an index.

 

[TerraDave]

Yeah, especially since the original D&Dg wasn't just a bunch of god-monster stat blocks with a few mishmash rules...wait...

The original Deities and Demigods was a brazen mishmash throwing together gods and heroes from a vast range of sources.

The 3.0 version wasn't even that. It was just less, in every way.

 

[Psion]

The original Deities and Demigods was a brazen mishmash throwing together gods and heroes from a vast range of sources.

The 3.0 version wasn't even that. It was just less, in every way.

I think it's exactly that. I just think its time is past and Faiths & Avatars (and dipping into the d20 pool, Book of the Righteous) is a far more suitable model for what a pantheon/religion book should be like.

But I think I've said that earlier in the thread. Ah well. Until we see it done right, it can't be said enough.

 

[TerraDave]

I think it's [Deities and Demigods] exactly that. I just think its time is past and Faiths & Avatars (and dipping into the d20 pool, Book of the Righteous) is a far more suitable model for what a pantheon/religion book should be like.

But I think I've said that earlier in the thread. Ah well. Until we see it done right, it can't be said enough.

Ya, but the first one had more gods and funky art work and stuff (and less of that painfull, painfull text)


(and when I thought "update this classic to 3.0" I kinday thought they would do something like you suggest)