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Fantasy and Science Fiction ~ What separates them from 'normal' literature?

The suspension of disbelief required by SF is considerably less than that required by fantasy literature. For instance, Frankenstein, the earliest English-language SF novel, is highly plausible IN ACCORDANCE WITH EARLY NINETEENTH-CENTURY SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE. The reanimation of dead flesh via electricity (which was still very mysterious) and the use of chemical reagents was not considered far-fetched. In other words, logical consistency and the proper application of science are central. Thence the author may turn to moral or intellectual questions raised by these minor suspensions of disbelief. War of the Worlds and The Time Machine, Flowers for Algernon were equally believable in their respective time periods (and perhaps still are).

Fantasy, by contrast (and by fantasy I mean 'sword-and-sorcery' fantasy) is full of logical inconsistencies. Things happen because the gods will it, it's magic, etc. No one believes the events of the Lord of the Rings to be possible (at least, I hope not).

Anyway, my two cents.
 

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Zappo said:
Fantasy/sci-fi being considered as 2nd class literature is a true disgrace. Unfortunately, the publishers keep putting out the same naive-hero-goes-on-epic-quest over and over again. Dudes, when Tolkien did it, it was still original. Now it isn't by any definition, and having a really weird setting or an antihero instead of a hero isn't original either. Stop buying it, and maybe we'll see something new sooner or later.

I second that emotion.

I will say that, in keeping with your point, most current fantasy literature deserves to be considered 2nd class literature (at best). Not an inherent fault with the genre, but a symptom of what sells. Partly it's what publishers choose to put out there, but I think the dollar does speak a certain amount of truth. A lot of genre readers (whatever genre) don't go to the racks looking for "Notes from the Underground"; they want a story they can comfortably slip into and while away the wekend or whatever, and fair enough. And really, unless you are an informed reader looking for a certain type of literary experience, it's all down to marketing. Not a lot differentiates any two genre books except cover art and maybe name recognition.
 
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This is a subject of great interest to me, on a great many levels. Because of this, there are a great many ways I can answer this question, so I will hit the first few that pop into my head.

First: What seperates what is called "fantasy" and "science fiction" (and I would also add "horror" although as Joshua said about "fantasy" you can have just about any kind of "horror" as long as its scary or unsettling), from "normal" fiction (Defined as fiction in which nothing happens that doesnt/cant happen in "real life") is that "fantasy" stories are truer stories, in the ways that matter. They tend to deal more with bigger, deeper, more genuine things than "normal" stories, which are often all surface and no substance.

As in the wonderful Jane Yolen quote in a previous post, those genres and especially "fantasy" and "horror" bring out the fundementals of things, which are generally what really matter...good and evil, love and hate, faith and disbelief, and the basic things we all deal with..figuring out the right thing to do, why we're here etc.

Personally, I find most "mainstream" stories, those without elements of magic or the like, very superficial, and far less realistic in terms of how the world and peoples real hearts work than most fantasy. There are exceptions, extremely well told stories of the more "normal" sort. Most of the exceptions are either semi historical family type stories like the Anne of Green Gables stories, or dark satirical type stuff.

More simply the basic obvious differences have already been stated. fantasy/sci fi contains elements which (supposedly) do not or do not yet exist in the reality we know, and they tend to be more about the setting, or the big events going on in the story, than individual characters. Characters in fantasy/sci fi stories are usualy working toward some large goal to help/save/preserve whole worlds or large groups of people, most "normal" stories are dealing primarily with the personal problems of the main character or the main character's family or friends. Supernatural horror tends to depart from that somewhat...many horror stories essential involve a single protaganist or small group of protagnists simply trying to survive whats going on, but some times there is a greater aspect to it such as in Stephen King's IT where they wanted to destroy IT for the sake of the whole town of Derry.


I agree with those that have said that trying to define stories through genre is often not terribly effective. In the end as I think someone else said your basically going to have good meaningful stories which draw of archtypes, mythic cords, and underlying truths, and crappy superficial stories that...well...dont.

Its been my experience though that there are more stories with supernatural/superscience/surreal content that draw off those wells of good storytelling, than those that try to stay in the "real world"
 

Fantasy, by contrast (and by fantasy I mean 'sword-and-sorcery' fantasy) is full of logical inconsistencies. Things happen because the gods will it, it's magic, etc. No one believes the events of the Lord of the Rings to be possible (at least, I hope not).


Two things about this statement...one, the things you mention are not (neccesarilly) logical inconsistencies. They may very well be completely logical in the context of the story. In particular, within a story, magic pretty much becomes its own logic. What I think you mean is that these things defy the known laws of physics and that they are "unrealistic" or "irritional" but thats not the same as illogical. Logic is more about consistency.

Two: Most people believe these kinds of things to be possible. Not to tread into forbidden terrirtory, but anyone who is part of a religion or spirituality of just about any kind believes in some form of magic, miracles, acts of (the) God(ess)(es) or whatever. Do I believe the events of the Lord of the Rings as written have in fact taken place in our world? No. Do I believe in, for instance, self-incarnating spiritual beings (like Gandalf?) Yes, I do. Do I believe in magic (as in some for of spiritual or supernatural force that cannot be defined or measured by science and isnt subject to its law)? You bet I do.
 

Marketing.

Go into Barnes & Noble or Borders. If they don't have a horror section, Stephen King and other horror authors who may be using aliens, psychic powers, etc... will not be under science fiction, but will be under fiction/literature.
 

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