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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Malin Genie" data-source="post: 791505" data-attributes="member: 1058">I've been mucking about with a couple of variant systems:The key to having magic skill-based is that you restrict the number of disciplines - the PsiHB has 6 (ClaSen, MetCre, Telep, PsyMet, PsyKin, and PsyPort.)  The Schools of magic are IMHO less 'balanced' with each other, but I don't know that you couldn't invent some number (4? 5? 6? 7?) of categories into which you could slot existing spells in a balanced way.A 'caster' class gets one (or ?two) as class skills, and the rest as cross-class skills.  Other classes can spend a Feat to gain a skill as a cross-class skill, getting some measure of power.The caster classes, though, get +1 per level to uses of the 'primary' skill, and +1 per two levels to other uses of magic.  So 'maxing out' a skill progresses the primary discipline bonus 2 pts/level, and others 3/2 or 1 (depending on whether class or cross-class.)  Each 'spell level' is approximately +5 DC.While skill points are based on Intelligence, all these skills are Wis skills, but save DCs are based on Cha.Evoking a power is done 'effortlessly', which is treated as a roll of 0 on the skill check, or 'effortfully', which renders the user fatigued (or exhausted if already fatigued.)Circumstance penalties can affect the rolls, and for arcane magic you could choose to have armour inflict a circumstance penalty.Example: Bob is a 3rd level Evoker with 6 ranks in Evocation.  He also has 6 ranks in Conjuration, which synergises with Evocation, and Wis 15.  His Ev bonus is +13.  An 'application' of Ev that is DC 13 or less could be performed by Bob without effort.  He might be able to achieve up to a DC 33 effect, but it is very unlikely and he will automatically fatigue himself trying.  In a non-combat situation he can Take 10 to guarantee a DC 23 power, but will fatigue himself.</blockquote>

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