Feather Token - Bird

[Mistwell]

Well, let's see....

A scroll of See Invisibility costs, what, 150 gp?, and lets you actually see the target, for a cost of a single standard action.

A bird feather token can concieveably locate an invisible foe just long enough to deliver a message; after which, it vanishes/dies/whatever. Let's see.... first, you need a message. Second, you need to activate the token. Then, the bird has to go to the target......how long does that all take? Granted, it gives away the location for everyone (Glitterdust, anyone?) but does not, in and of itself, tell you exactly where it is (total concealment), unlike See Invisibility.

An illiterate orc barbarian can use the feather token to locate an invisible foe. Only a spellcaster can cast the spells you mention. I think it's pretty obvious the intent was for a non-spellcaster to be able to locate invisible things quickly. Also, technically (though I would want a ruling on this one), a creature immune to divinations can still be located by the token, while spells like see invisible would not work.

Also, a potion of see invisibility would be the same price as this token I believe. The token has more utility but a much shorter duration for this particular effect. I think it can be a fair tradeoff.

 

[Stormrunner]

I think it's pretty obvious the intent was for a non-spellcaster to be able to locate invisible things quickly.

Really? You think the primary reason for putting this item in the DMG was to allow PCs to find invisible opponents? Gee, I thought it was supposed to allow a non-spellcaster to deliver a quick, long-distance message. Otherwise, wouldn't the text say something like "the bird unerringly seeks out the nearest invisible creature and flies rings around it", and the posters on this board would be saying "Hey, I can also use this thing to deliver messages. Sweet!".

 

[Vorput]

Really? You think the primary reason for putting this item in the DMG was to allow PCs to find invisible opponents? Gee, I thought it was supposed to allow a non-spellcaster to deliver a quick, long-distance message. Otherwise, wouldn't the text say something like "the bird unerringly seeks out the nearest invisible creature and flies rings around it", and the posters on this board would be saying "Hey, I can also use this thing to deliver messages. Sweet!".

::chuckles:: It's so true!!!!

 

[Glyfair]

I never thought to deliver a message to an invisible foe, though. Hmmm...

Maybe it can't. Perhaps it will fly to the general area and hang around until it can fix a location for the target.

It's pretty open as to GM use. I doubt the bird can get to a target who is locked in a vault, for example.

 

[Mistwell]

Really? You think the primary reason for putting this item in the DMG was to allow PCs to find invisible opponents? Gee, I thought it was supposed to allow a non-spellcaster to deliver a quick, long-distance message. Otherwise, wouldn't the text say something like "the bird unerringly seeks out the nearest invisible creature and flies rings around it", and the posters on this board would be saying "Hey, I can also use this thing to deliver messages. Sweet!".

No, I was referring to the intent of the person who posted in this forum - that his or her intent in mentioning the "find invisible" function was that it's a good use for a non-spellcaster.

 

[Mistwell]

Maybe it can't. Perhaps it will fly to the general area and hang around until it can fix a location for the target.

It's pretty open as to GM use. I doubt the bird can get to a target who is locked in a vault, for example.

It can detect a creature through miles if tunnel walls, or buildings, but cannot detect their location once actually in the room with them? Seems unlikely to me.