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<blockquote data-quote="Darklone" data-source="post: 8774" data-attributes="member: 1372"><p><strong>Tumbling pass...</strong></p><p></p><p>Hmm. Don't like it. Tumbling Pass effectively allows you to move while using the full attack option. PLUS tumbling. That way you run in without AoOs, whirlwind attack, second whirlwind if you got the right weapon, tumble out (no AoOs) and that's it. I think it's wayyy too strong for a feat. Especially for a feat with mostly the same prerequisites as whirlwind attack.</p><p></p><p>Natural Finesse: Horribly strong for high dex guys like halflings with no Str bonus. Too powerful for a certain group of guys and useless for most of the others.</p><p></p><p>Finesse specialization: Effectively allows to finesse ALL weapons. Plus you still add your STR bonus to damage. With ridiculous easy prerequisites. This higly favours elves and similar high dex monsters. Add Power Attack and you got hell on earth. Example: Elven Fighter with Str15 and Dex20 (not THAT much... that's possible with most point buy systems too). You got +6 to hit at lvl1. With a greatsword. Well. A halforc with Str20 or a human with Str18 and Weapon Focus will do this too (with more damage), but none of them will have the high dex for ranged attacks and AC. This feat is not that unbalanced, but I still consider it as VERY strong.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darklone, post: 8774, member: 1372"] [b]Tumbling pass...[/b] Hmm. Don't like it. Tumbling Pass effectively allows you to move while using the full attack option. PLUS tumbling. That way you run in without AoOs, whirlwind attack, second whirlwind if you got the right weapon, tumble out (no AoOs) and that's it. I think it's wayyy too strong for a feat. Especially for a feat with mostly the same prerequisites as whirlwind attack. Natural Finesse: Horribly strong for high dex guys like halflings with no Str bonus. Too powerful for a certain group of guys and useless for most of the others. Finesse specialization: Effectively allows to finesse ALL weapons. Plus you still add your STR bonus to damage. With ridiculous easy prerequisites. This higly favours elves and similar high dex monsters. Add Power Attack and you got hell on earth. Example: Elven Fighter with Str15 and Dex20 (not THAT much... that's possible with most point buy systems too). You got +6 to hit at lvl1. With a greatsword. Well. A halforc with Str20 or a human with Str18 and Weapon Focus will do this too (with more damage), but none of them will have the high dex for ranged attacks and AC. This feat is not that unbalanced, but I still consider it as VERY strong. [/QUOTE]
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