Feats from Dragon 305

[trentonjoe]

THere are three feats from the latest dragon that I am thinking of using and I was wondering what peoples thoughts on them were. Here are the feats:


GOd Touched
Benefit: You gain a +1 luck bonus to any action that is related to your gods portfolio 1/day.

(seems pretty unpowerful but it is the prereq for the following 2)

Divine Fortification
Benefit:

Once per day you gain:
- a deflection bonus to your AC equal to you Cha bonus +1
- temporary hit points equal to your level
- +2 bonus to dex

These bonuses last your charisma bonus +1 rounds



Divine Fury

Benefit:

Once per day you gain:
- an increase to your BASE ATTACK BONUS equal to you Cha bonus +1
- temporary hit points equal to your level
- +2 bonus to str

These bonuses last your charisma bonus +1 rounds


Here are my questions.

Are the last two REALLY good?
Is Divine Fury to similar to a Barbarian's rage?
Would it be balanced if I replaced the 1/2 fiends Spell like abilities at 1st and 3rd level (darkness 3/day @1 and desecrate @3) with these feats?

Thanks in advance and I hope this is the right forum!

 

[shilsen]

Are the last two REALLY good?
Is Divine Fury to similar to a Barbarian's rage?
Would it be balanced if I replaced the 1/2 fiends Spell like abilities at 1st and 3rd level (darkness 3/day @1 and desecrate @3) with these feats?

Wow! I can just see all those aasimar paladins (yes, I know you're out there ) licking their lips. Compare them to the divine feats in DotF (some of which are admittedly too weak) and these two are in a whole other league. Divine Fury is especially problematical, with the bonus to BAB, with the potential to give a very high Cha cleric 2 extra attacks a round. An attack bonus would be much better. Also, since the bonuses are unnamed, they would stack with anything else. And I don't think the half-fiend spell-like abilities you mention compare at all in power. In short, I think they're a little too good, and would not allow those two feats in my campaign.

 

[Crothian]

I like them. They can only be done once a day, and while feats seem to grow on trees gaining extra ones does not.

 

[Brown Jenkin]

Much like a couple of spells.

Divine Agility (DotF) 5th level cleric. Gives you
18 Dex
Reflex save bonus
Spring Attack

Divine Power (PHB) 4th Level Cleric
18 Str
Fighter BAB=to Character Level
+1hp/level

I'm not sure if a feat should equal a 4th or 5th level spell, even with 1 useless prereq. Are there other feats that do this?

 

[TrizzlWizzl]

Another prereq for those feats is Divine Fervor. But considering it gives you a bonus to an ability score it's not much of a drawback.

 

[TrizzlWizzl]

Another prereq for those feats is Divine Fervor. But considering it gives you a bonus to an ability score it's not much of a drawback.

 

[Destil]

Adding to base attack bonus is very very sloppy / bad style in my opinion. (I really wish Tenser's and Divine Might didn't work that way). Should be a sacred bonus to hit or something...

Aside from that they look alright to me.

 

[trentonjoe]

Divine Fury

Benefit:

Once per day you gain:
- an increase to your BASE ATTACK BONUS equal to you Cha bonus +1
- temporary hit points equal to your level
- +2 bonus to str

These bonuses last your charisma bonus +1 rounds

As it is written, what does your charisma need to be to make this good? and unbelievably good?

Figure a 16 cha gives you +5 to hit (and an extra attack 4/5 of the time) +1 damage some xtra hitpoints (not a lot) for 4 rounds.

That seems pretty good.

A 22 charisma gives +8 to hit (atleast one and two extra attacks 2/5 of the time) +1 damage some hit points (same amount) for 7 rounds.

Seems ALOT better to me.

Did I answer my own question?

 

[trentonjoe]

any new ideas?

 

[Deset Gled]

I agree with Destil on this one (where's a flag when you need it?). The only real problem I see with these is the raised BAB. If that was changed to a named bonus to hit, I don't think I would have a problem with them.

As for your question of replacing spell like abilities with these feats, I would have to give a resounding no. Trading in class abilities for feats can quickly lead to a lot of complexity (read: loophole for power gamers) in game balance.