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<blockquote data-quote="Magus_Jerel" data-source="post: 127795" data-attributes="member: 3940"><p>Extraordinary Ability(Ex): a <strong>nonmagical</strong> special ability as opposed to a spell like or supernatural ability</p><p></p><p>natural ability: a non-magical ability</p><p></p><p>supernatural Ability(Su): A "magical power" that produces a particular effect, as opposed to a natural, extraordinary, or spell like ability. Using a supernatural ability does not necessarily provoke an AoO. Supernatural abilities are not subject to dispelling, disruption or SR, but do not function in AMF or similar areas.</p><p></p><p>spell: A one time magical effect. The <strong>primary</strong> categories are arcane and divine.</p><p></p><p>Now... given that you have to swallow the definition of spell:</p><p></p><p></p><p>Note on definition of spell - it does NOT say that the only categories of spell are arcane and divine. </p><p></p><p>Psionic "manifestations" are therefore also be considered spells in the strictest sense of the word.</p><p></p><p>"one time magical effects" - useable at will or otherwise - are considered "spells".</p><p></p><p>If the ability is both supernatural and CONTINUOUS - different matter, but we are concerned about wether or not something can ... teleport? - yes?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>now.... with feeblemind...</p><p><strong>the creature can't cast spells</strong> </p><p></p><p>Using the law of identity</p><p><strong>The creature can't cast one time magical effects</strong> </p><p></p><p>Now - I would say that this "ability" to teleport is a one time magical effect, and therefore not allowed... but - since you want exact chapter and verse...</p><p></p><p>Marilith's SLA's:</p><p>at will - (several powers listed) THESE ABILITIES ARE AS THE SPELL CAST BY A !3TH LEVEL SORCERER.</p><p></p><p>Feeblemind:</p><p>The creature can't cast spells.</p><p></p><p>Any questions?</p><p></p><p>Note - you will find the "as the spell cast by" wording on nearly all SLA's - matter of fact... I don't know of one that you won't find it on.... kinda need it that way to BE a SLA.</p><p></p><p></p><p>By the way hong - if you want to attack the definitions and change them - you can't - if you do, you are breaking the defined game terms... and in breach of D20 license</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magus_Jerel, post: 127795, member: 3940"] Extraordinary Ability(Ex): a [B]nonmagical[/B] special ability as opposed to a spell like or supernatural ability natural ability: a non-magical ability supernatural Ability(Su): A "magical power" that produces a particular effect, as opposed to a natural, extraordinary, or spell like ability. Using a supernatural ability does not necessarily provoke an AoO. Supernatural abilities are not subject to dispelling, disruption or SR, but do not function in AMF or similar areas. spell: A one time magical effect. The [B]primary[/B] categories are arcane and divine. Now... given that you have to swallow the definition of spell: Note on definition of spell - it does NOT say that the only categories of spell are arcane and divine. Psionic "manifestations" are therefore also be considered spells in the strictest sense of the word. "one time magical effects" - useable at will or otherwise - are considered "spells". If the ability is both supernatural and CONTINUOUS - different matter, but we are concerned about wether or not something can ... teleport? - yes? now.... with feeblemind... [B]the creature can't cast spells[/B] Using the law of identity [B]The creature can't cast one time magical effects[/B] Now - I would say that this "ability" to teleport is a one time magical effect, and therefore not allowed... but - since you want exact chapter and verse... Marilith's SLA's: at will - (several powers listed) THESE ABILITIES ARE AS THE SPELL CAST BY A !3TH LEVEL SORCERER. Feeblemind: The creature can't cast spells. Any questions? Note - you will find the "as the spell cast by" wording on nearly all SLA's - matter of fact... I don't know of one that you won't find it on.... kinda need it that way to BE a SLA. By the way hong - if you want to attack the definitions and change them - you can't - if you do, you are breaking the defined game terms... and in breach of D20 license [/QUOTE]
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