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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 130248" data-attributes="member: 2209">core issues hereThe core issue seems to be are spell like abilities subject to effects that only affect spells. Feeblemind in the PH says it affects spells and does not mention SLAs.Magus seems to be arguing that SLAs are a type of spells.The quote from the MM seems to state fairly clearly that this is not so&quot;&quot;Spell-Like: Spell-like abilities are magical and work just like spells (although they are not spells, and so have no verbal, somatic, material, focus, or XP components). They go away in an antimagic field and are subject to spell resistance.&quot; [MM p.7]The key part being &quot;they are not spells.&quot;Even though a ranger has a favored enemy of magical beasts this gives no special benefits when he faces a beast, they are not the same thing and the types are distinct. From a rules perspective the distinctions between types matter.It seems similar here. Feeblemind prevents the casting of spells. SLAs though similar to spells, are not spells. Therefore I read Feeblemind as not directly affecting SLA ability use.Now as for the 1 intelligence prohibiting it, the psionic constructs are a good example of a 0 intelligence creature that uses SLAs. If a 0 intelligence creature can use SLAs it makes sense that a 1 intelliegence creature can.If you don't have the Psihb you can still see the astral constructs in the SRD.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 130248, member: 2209"] [b]core issues here[/b] The core issue seems to be are spell like abilities subject to effects that only affect spells. Feeblemind in the PH says it affects spells and does not mention SLAs. Magus seems to be arguing that SLAs are a type of spells. The quote from the MM seems to state fairly clearly that this is not so ""Spell-Like: Spell-like abilities are magical and work just like spells (although they are not spells, and so have no verbal, somatic, material, focus, or XP components). They go away in an antimagic field and are subject to spell resistance." [MM p.7] The key part being "they are not spells." Even though a ranger has a favored enemy of magical beasts this gives no special benefits when he faces a beast, they are not the same thing and the types are distinct. From a rules perspective the distinctions between types matter. It seems similar here. Feeblemind prevents the casting of spells. SLAs though similar to spells, are not spells. Therefore I read Feeblemind as not directly affecting SLA ability use. Now as for the 1 intelligence prohibiting it, the psionic constructs are a good example of a 0 intelligence creature that uses SLAs. If a 0 intelligence creature can use SLAs it makes sense that a 1 intelliegence creature can. If you don't have the Psihb you can still see the astral constructs in the SRD. [/QUOTE]

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