D&D 5E FGG Kickstarter The Blight Richard Pett's Crooked City

[mach1.9pants]

Is on! Here The Lost Lands: The Blight - Richard Pett's Crooked City

It is not currently planned for 5E, just PF and S&W, but I am posting it here as there is strong hints that 5E may happen. What others that are after 5E are doing is backing at the $1 level then making a comment that if it goes 5E they'll up their pledge. I encourage anyone that wants 5E to do the same. I'm biased because although I am getting this anyway, I'd really prefer it in 5E. So go on, make your voice heard

My blah from the PF sub forum below

Published by Frog God Games, who have a proven KS record, and for their Lost Lands campaign setting. However this horror urban campaign area and adventure path can be easily dropped in in any game.

For those who are Paizo fans Pett is a familiar name, The Skinsaw Murders is one example of his dark genius! He is a Paizo fan favourite

The booki is, get this, nine hundred pages long! Maybe More! Not cheap but "The base price for a single volume of The Blight for either rules-version in this Kickstarter is $135. Yes it's steep, but at an estimated 900 pages of campaign and adventure, including a full-adventure path and campaign materials equaling over 550,000 words, it's the equivalent of more than 3 Paizo adventure paths of material for less than the price of 1 -- along with the addition of the pdf for free"

Check it out if dark urban horror is your thing

 

[Mistwell]

5e is the #1 RPG. Shouldn't have to beg to get it made for 5e to begin with.

 

[qu0zl]

I've backed it at a dollar to follow the 5e discussion. It sounds likely that Shadow Demon their in house converter will at least do a 5e PDF. I'd prefer the 1000 page book in 5e but the S&W copy and a companion PDF would be tempting.

 

[qu0zl]

5e is the #1 RPG. Shouldn't have to beg to get it made for 5e to begin with.

In third party publishing 5e is a minnow compared to Pathfinder. Frog God Games are one of the companies really pushing it for 5e. Kobold Press also spring to mind.

I think the entire FGG crew have day jobs so they have to focus on producing stuff that people want. Hence the uncertainty about 5e books. Considering how well the Borderland Provinces kick-starter seemed to go for 5e I'm optimistic they'll keep working on 5e stuff. Hence, I guess, why there's suddenly discussion of The Blight in 5e when there previously wasn't.

 

[Mistwell]

In third party publishing 5e is a minnow compared to Pathfinder.

This year, based on sales of 5e third party publishing, I disagree. All reports are that 3rd party publishers are seeing a lot more sales from 5e products they produce new for this year, than pathfinder products new for this year (and unquestionably more than S&W). Heck, right here at EnWorld the magazine produced for both games sees roughly 1/3 sales for the PF version than the 5e version. And that's because there is less material out there for 5e right now, and demand for PF is already spread over an incredibly large number of products.

Sorry it should have been created with 5e in mind. It's 2 year old thinking for them to do it for just PF up front.

I mean, good luck. If you are excited for this, more power to you and I hope you get what you're looking for. But I don't see this as a 5e product, and as there are so many good new products being produced by 3rd parties right now with 5e in mind, I don't see the point.

 

[Matthan]

I mentioned this in the Pathfinder forum thread, but it is difficult for me to reconcile the idea that they presented the Borderlands kickstarter as testing the waters for future 5E editions of products and rolled this kickstarter out before completing the Backer Kits for the last one so they could actually look at the data. I know on a rational basis that they have business decisions driving that (printer time and resources already deployed), but as a 5E fan that wants to be a Lost Lands fan (I have genuinely never read a negative review about their material), it feels a little irrationally insulting.

I recognize that this is irrational of me and that there must be business considerations that I am not privy to, but it makes it hard to be a fan. I was willing to back Borderlands on the strength of their reputation alone. I would be willing to back this for the same reason even before seeing the Borderlands book, but they aren't presenting that option. The only option they indicated might be coming is a pdf for 5E which feels a little like rubbing salt in. I just feel like at this point, 5E should be on the radar.

Again, I know it's irrational. They don't owe me anything, and they were open about this project during the Borderlands kickstarter. It's just irrationally irritating me the more I think about it. I want to be a fan. I put up money to show that I wanted to be a fan. Why not wait until you know what your 5E audience looks like before launching this to see if you should adjust your plans accordingly? Maybe 5E is a non-factor for them, but it would be nice to know they were making that decision from actually looking at their audience.

 

[mach1.9pants]

I am sure that someone from FGG will get on and give their perspective, but we are not begging for a 5E version. But indicating we would purchase that. This is a 135$ book, not an easy sell. IMO FGG are pretty sure (not totally thus a kickstarter) that their existing PF fan and S&W fan base will see them through with enough support to get this book printed. However, they do not have an existing 5E base in the same way. Making an entire new version with no idea if it will sell is a big risk, for part time developers - I am sure they'd love to do it in 5E (some of them are 5E gamers). But sales are sales. They were straight out of the blocks with Quest of Doom etc 5E kickstarter under the Necromancer Games logo.

I get the point about Borderlands as a 5E tester but The Blight has been years in the execution and planning, hinted ages ago. SO that is two year old thinking, I guess. It has been in progress for longer than that! Also it is written in PF by a Paizo author on high note, that's his system. Changing plans is hard, I guess. I am being an apologist, cos I love their work, but I would rather people keen on this put their word in (and $1 pledge, that they can always cancel) and make it obvious that there is support out there for FGG to go that extra mile and make a third rules version!

 

[mach1.9pants]

Posted from the PF thread

This would be the key component. Having read the introductory "book" of the Blight, there would be some very subtle conversion issues to deal with, and it's a long book. Once we get a sense for the 5e participation in the Borderland Provinces Kickstarter, it will provide much more meaningful information than we have right now. I'm pretty sure that the conversion itself would be a fairly monumental task, and we're already preparing the Bard's Gate book for 5e. We're definitely part of the 5e surge, it's just that this particular book isn't -- at least currently -- planned to be part of the overall advance. That could change, but by saying that we are absolutely NOT teasing a plan that's in place. The current plan is that the 5e campaign resources would go from Borderland Provinces to Bard's Gate. Adding a 5e version of Blight would be a massive and unanticipated additional project. Lots of 5e interest would need to crop up, and I mean LOTS, since it would mean putting something additional into the middle of a schedule.

I'm not trying to be a downer, because it is truly a possibility, but I don't want people to take away the idea that this is an actual plan we're offering as a teaser. At present, it's not the plan. A 5e version would represent a change of plan.

 

[Morrus]

All reports are that 3rd party publishers are seeing a lot more sales from 5e products they produce new for this year, than pathfinder products new for this year (and unquestionably more than S&W). Heck, right here at EnWorld the magazine produced for both games sees roughly 1/3 sales for the PF version than the 5e version.

1/5 actually!

 

[darjr]

1/5 actually!

How recent a change is that?