Fiendish Monstrous Scorpion stats?

[Yair]

I am trying to create a Fiendish Monstrous Scorpion (Medium). If I understand the template correctly, the type changes from Vermin to Magical Beast. Does that mean it no longer has the Vermin traits? If not, does it having Int 3 negate the mindless vermin trait?

 

[Scharlata]

Hi!

[...] If I understand the template correctly, the type changes from Vermin to Magical Beast.

Animals and vermin with this template become magical beasts.
Yes, I guess, you're right.

Does that mean it no longer has the Vermin traits?[...]

If you (have to) trade in a creature type, you drop the former traits and assume the new traits. So, yes, your fiendish scorpion is just too sly to by mindless.

Kind regards and happy easter.

 

[Staffan]

If you (have to) trade in a creature type, you drop the former traits and assume the new traits. So, yes, your fiendish scorpion is just too sly to by mindless.

Though "mindless" is really more of a function of having "Int --" than being a vermin, if you think about it. So given that the fiendish template doesn't change Int, the scorpion would still be mindless.

Had it been a half-fiend, on the other hand, it would have gained Int 4 and not been mindless anymore.

 

[dcollins]

So given that the fiendish template doesn't change Int, the scorpion would still be mindless.

From SRD, "Fiendish Creature":

Abilities: Same as the base creature, but Intelligence is at least 3.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Though "mindless" is really more of a function of having "Int --" than being a vermin, if you think about it. So given that the fiendish template doesn't change Int, the scorpion would still be mindless.

Actually, it does change the Int score:

Abilities: Same as the base creature, but Intelligence is at least 3.

 

[Staffan]

D'oh!

 

[Yair]

Thanks!